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Tammyx

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Hi there my name is Tammy,
I am type 2 and been diagnosed for about a year. have been finding thing hard, as I have not been able to control my blood sugars :( I am on tablets but they don't seem to be working for me at the minute. I have just had to have the dose increased, I am hoping that this and controlling my diet will help. Has anyone got any advice that would help me please ?
THANKS X
 
Hi Tammy and welcome to this forum, you have definitely come to the right place, there are lots of people here will answer your questions and lots of information to get your blood sugars under control. @daisy1 will be along soon with a long list of invaluable information.

Please feel free to have a look around and ask away as many questions as you want, dont panic as every thing will start to fall into place.

Are you testing at the moment as most here are testing here, first thing on a morning always before a meal and 2 hours after thats the only way you will get control.
 
high..joining the forum is a big step on fixing stuff...ask lots of questions and do lots of reading

here is a list of sites that are worth a week of reading

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video


For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy.

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm


blood testing

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm


food counting


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/


Another dietician site

http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management


Newcastle diet aims in 8+ weeks to mimic the rate of ~70% remission, for surgery T2

“It is now clear that Type 2 diabetes is caused by abnormal fat storage. Research on how this may be reversed is available. “click that link on this page http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/

Lectures

http://www.fend-lectures.org/index.php?menu=view&id=94

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/events/public-lectures/item.php?roy-taylor-diabetes

shows BG lowering to normal range

View attachment 8599


American diabetic association ( http://www.professional.diabetes.org/)

http://www.professional.diabetes.org/admin/UserFiles/0 - Sean/dc132042 FINAL.pdf

Evidence is inconclusive for an ideal amount of total fat intake for people with diabetes;

therefore, goals should be individualized; fat quality appears to be far more important than quantity.

In people with type 2 diabetes, a Mediterranean-style, MUFA-rich [mono fats-rich] eating pattern may benefit

glycemic control and CVD risk factors and can therefore be recommended as an effective alternative to a lower-fat, higher-carbohydrate eating pattern.


SD codefree meter

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code ..5 packs 264086
 
Hi there my name is Tammy,
I am type 2 and been diagnosed for about a year. have been finding thing hard, as I have not been able to control my blood sugars :( I am on tablets but they don't seem to be working for me at the minute. I have just had to have the dose increased, I am hoping that this and controlling my diet will help. Has anyone got any advice that would help me please ?
THANKS X
Hi Tammy while you waiting for Daisy1 with the list, most will explain that they are on a Low Carbohydrate High Fat Diet. This means that things like Bread Rice Pasta Potatoes are all big no's where we are cconcerned Are you testing & what are you eating?
 
Thank you
I am only testing in the mornings and evening as that what my doctor has told me to do but my blood sugars are 15 and over in the mornings and 10-12 in the evening :-/ I know they are not great and have tried to cut out carbs and cut out sugar in everything lol 2 weeks ago they where always 18 and over so they are a little better but want them down even more
 
high..joining the forum is a big step on fixing stuff...ask lots of questions and do lots of reading

here is a list of sites that are worth a week of reading

http://www.dietdoctor.com/lchf it’s a long page and a video


For me, the more carbs we eat the more carbs we want. they don’t give up easy.

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarbliving/a/Food-Cravings.htm

http://lowcarbdiets.about.com/od/lowcarb101/a/firstweek.htm


blood testing

http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm


food counting


http://www.myfitnesspal.com/


Another dietician site

http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/blog/carbohydrate-restriction-an-option-for-diabetes-management


Newcastle diet aims in 8+ weeks to mimic the rate of ~70% remission, for surgery T2

“It is now clear that Type 2 diabetes is caused by abnormal fat storage. Research on how this may be reversed is available. “click that link on this page http://www.ncl.ac.uk/magres/research/diabetes/

Lectures

http://www.fend-lectures.org/index.php?menu=view&id=94

http://www.ncl.ac.uk/events/public-lectures/item.php?roy-taylor-diabetes

shows BG lowering to normal range

View attachment 8599


American diabetic association ( http://www.professional.diabetes.org/)

http://www.professional.diabetes.org/admin/UserFiles/0 - Sean/dc132042 FINAL.pdf

Evidence is inconclusive for an ideal amount of total fat intake for people with diabetes;

therefore, goals should be individualized; fat quality appears to be far more important than quantity.

In people with type 2 diabetes, a Mediterranean-style, MUFA-rich [mono fats-rich] eating pattern may benefit

glycemic control and CVD risk factors and can therefore be recommended as an effective alternative to a lower-fat, higher-carbohydrate eating pattern.


SD codefree meter

http://www.homehealth-uk.com/medical/blood_glucose_monitor_testing.htm

if you buy extra boxes of strips there is a discount code ..5 packs 264086
 
Hi Tammy while you waiting for Daisy1 with the list, most will explain that they are on a Low Carbohydrate High Fat Diet. This means that things like Bread Rice Pasta Potatoes are all big no's where we are cconcerned Are you testing & what are you eating?
Love my bread :-( but only trying to eat brown bread 2 slices every other day and have cut down on potatoes, don't eat paste and rice much.
 
Thank you
I am only testing in the mornings and evening as that what my doctor has told me to do but my blood sugars are 15 and over in the mornings and 10-12 in the evening :-/ I know they are not great and have tried to cut out carbs and cut out sugar in everything lol 2 weeks ago they where always 18 and over so they are a little better but want them down even more
Hi Tammy, 18 are pretty high, the only way to get these down is to reduce the carbs.The carbs turn immediately to sugar. Breakfast here are Eggs & Bacon eggs which any way you want. Some have Full Fat yogurt & Berries maybe with a little Flaxseed sprinkled on for fibre, cereals are really a no no. Some may have a slice of wholemeal bread but they would be testing after to see whether that is raising the sugars. Fruit like bananas is out and all tropical fruit.

You need to test just before you start eating and then 2 hours after.
Once you start cutting down on the carbs you will see your blood sugars drop, and you will be able to see what foods you can eat. You can have all the meats with the fat, lots of vegetables bu those are mainly the one that grow above ground, swede is an exception. and a few other. Nearly all the salad stuff including avocado. and cheese
 
Love my bread :-( but only trying to eat brown bread 2 slices every other day and have cut down on potatoes, don't eat paste and rice much.
Must say
Hi Tammy, 18 are pretty high, the only way to get these down is to reduce the carbs.The carbs turn immediately to sugar. Breakfast here are Eggs & Bacon eggs which any way you want. Some have Full Fat yogurt & Berries maybe with a little Flaxseed sprinkled on for fibre, cereals are really a no no. Some may have a slice of wholemeal bread but they would be testing after to see whether that is raising the sugars. Fruit like bananas is out and all tropical fruit.

You need to test just before you start eating and then 2 hours after.
Once you start cutting down on the carbs you will see your blood sugars drop, and you will be able to see what foods you can eat. You can have all the meats with the fat, lots of vegetables bu those are mainly the one that grow above ground, swede is an exception. and a few other. Nearly all the salad stuff including avocado. and cheese
I so love bananas, and would have one every day with breakfast whoops with yogurt. Don't eat cereals and love fish and meat so that's good. Thanks I'm going to cut out loads of carbs and test before and after thank you x
 
I don't eat fruit or juice..T2 already make up to 10 times more fructose than the normal person through polyol pathways
 
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I so love bananas, and would have one every day with breakfast whoops with yogurt. Don't eat cereals and love fish and meat so that's good. Thanks I'm going to cut out loads of carbs and test before and after thank you x

I'm going to bed now, sorry, but just to say, Bananas are one of the worst unfortunately, you can eat as much fish as you wish just not battered, but fried or steamed whatever and as many vegs as you want.. Do as they said earlier read ask lot of questions it will be daunting at first but all will fall into place.
 
Hello Tammy and welcome to the forum :)

As you have seen there is a lot of helpful advice to be seen on this forum. Here is some more - the information we give to new members. I hope you will find it all useful. Ask as many questions as you like - there is always someone to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 100,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
image.jpg Tammy Welcome to the forum.
 
Hi. If you are still fairly young and not overweight then you need to consider the possibility of an incorrect diagnosis. With blood sugar that high having low-carbs then Late onset T1 (LADA) is a possibility and not T2. If you are not noticeably overweight then do ask the GP for the two tests for LADA. If these confirm it then the medication route might continue beyond the Gliclazide onto insulin depending on the rate of diabtetes progression (Metformin will have little effect). Don't worry about the insulin if it should be needed as it's not really a problem and gives very good control.
 
Hi I'm Richard and has been recently diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. Since childhood most of the food I have been eating are carbohydrate rich foods.
I understand the need for me to quit carbohydrate food now and I have read a lot on this forum.
My biggest challenge is what food do I eat now?
I know I need lots of vegetables and some non red meats in my meals but what do I eat them with?
Because potatoes is no! Rice is no! Pasta is no? Etc
If anyone can give me suggestions on no or very low carbohydrate menu planner, so I can have a fair idea and take it from there, I will be very grateful.
What I'm actually asking is exact food suggestions for breakfast, lunch, dinner... Thank you.
 
Hello Richard and welcome to the forum.

You can eat meat (hot or cold), fish, eggs cooked any which way, vegetables, salads, cheese, butter, unsweetened plain yogurts, bacon and eggs, tomatoes, mushrooms, berry fruits, nuts in moderation .....

There is a thread on the forum entitled "what have you eaten today". There are some good ideas on there, and also loads of recipes in the food and nutrition section.

Do you have a meter? If not, you could do with one. You can then test yourself before you eat and 2 hours after. If the difference between the 2 readings is more than 2mmol/l (preferably less) there is something in that meal that needs attention. It is trial and error with carbs. Through testing, I have learnt I can manage a slice of bread, but not 2 slices, I can mange 2 new potatoes, but not 4. And so on ......
 
Hi I'm Richard and has been recently diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. Since childhood most of the food I have been eating are carbohydrate rich foods.
I understand the need for me to quit carbohydrate food now and I have read a lot on this forum.
My biggest challenge is what food do I eat now?
I know I need lots of vegetables and some non red meats in my meals but what do I eat them with?
Because potatoes is no! Rice is no! Pasta is no? Etc
If anyone can give me suggestions on no or very low carbohydrate menu planner, so I can have a fair idea and take it from there, I will be very grateful.
What I'm actually asking is exact food suggestions for breakfast, lunch, dinner... Thank you.
Here's what I ate the other day, if you think that will be helpful to know (Totals: calories: 2450, net carbs: 46g, fat 171g, protein: 164g):
Breakfast:
Americano + 1 TBS cream
3 eggs / 4g butter
bacon 23 g
4 g butter
Lunch:
roast chicken 178g
avocado 123g
salad 530g
salad dressing 75g
Americano + 2 TBS 1/2&1/2
Tea:
Americano + 1 TBS cream
85% chocolate 28g
camembert 35g
raclette 30g
Supper:
1bison sausage
ham 200g
asparagus 162g
pate 44g
Snack:
almond butter 1 TBS

Really, what's more important is what I didn't eat: bread, rice, pasta, starchy veg.
 
Hi Tammy and Richard, welcome from me :)
 
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