4ratbags
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Sometimes if you dont eat much during the day you can get liver dumps which keeps your BS elevated. Do you have any snacks like peanuts during the day.
So the doctor is a clever manSorry for the length of this, it is all relevent...
I felt paticularly unwell the other day, and having gone without food for over 12 hours I tested my blood. My mmol/L was 12.0, which is high (for me).
I was preparing my lunch at the time and wondered if I should still eat my main meal with this high reading, or not? My thinking being - if my reading is already high then eating could raise it even more.
So, before cooking, I thought I'd ring "111" and ask their opinion (as it was a Bank Holiday and my options were limited).
I talked with a very nice lady on the phone. She checked with her superior and came back to me to say it was OK to still eat it. She said a doctor would call me back within the next couple of hours, but if I felt worse to ring 111 again.
Sometime later, after having cooked and eaten, I got a call from another lady saying the doctor was busy but would still call me back at some point. No problem I thought.
When the doctor eventually did call me he asked some routine questions but then launched into a lecture on blood testing!
He insisted I SHOULD NOT BE TESTING at all, as I was on Metformin. According to him, nobody on Metformin should be testing as it interferes with doing so (?!).
I tried to explain I have always tested once a day, originally on my G.P.s instruction (and whilst taking Metformin). I told him the doctor stopped issuing test strips about a year ago (£££), however I have been buying them to continue testing myself (normally only once a day).
I also pointed out to him if I didn't test my blood HOW was I supposed to know whether my diabetes was "under control" or not?
I had only tested twice on this occasion as I felt so unwell. Without testing I wouldn't have known my blood sugar level was the (probable) cause of me feeling ill.
The doctor grew increasingly stroppy saying I was making up my readings, as what I had told him wasn't possible!
WHY would I do such a thing? I even agreed with him that, the longer I went without food, I would have expected my reading to get lower, not higher.
For information my reading(s) that day were:
On waking (my normal testing time) my reading was 7.4
I don't eat breakfast, as a rule.
At 1215 (before eating) and after 12 hours + without food it was 12.0
(Lunch was eaten about 1300)
At 1410 it had reduced to 8.1
At 1515 it was 5.8
I ate again at teatime.
But at 2355 it was back up at 10.4 and I was feeling quite ill again. This time I didn't phone 111, as my previous dealings with their doctor had scared me off doing so!
I live alone, and I went to bed wondering if it would go higher in my sleep and (perhaps) never wake up.
Anyway, if you are still awake after reading all this...
Has ANYONE else been told NOT to take blood glucose readings whilst using Metformin? It's the first time since being diagnosed Type 2, in 2008, that I've ever heard of it.
How the hell is a sufferer supposed to take control of their diabetes WITHOUT knowing what their blood glucose is?
Puzzled.
Metformin should be taken with or after food because it is highly acidic and can cause stomach problems. I take 500mg although my Diabetic nurse says I may come off it in August. I was diagnosed in December last year just before Christmas! Anyway my BG was 15 then. The nurse suggested a meter although I couldn't get one on prescription and she said to aim for around 9/10 at first and was so supportive. I am lucky I know. Now I have had the results of my HBac1 etc and my average came down to 8. For the first time today I hit 5! I was amazed and so chuffed but wouldn't have known without my trusty meter. I am usually about 8/9 fasting in the am. I tested my BG for everything I ate that had carbs in it and have been amazed at what I can't eat anymore but don't care. I think having a meter should be compulsory and ignore anyone who says you shouldn't have one.
By the way I feel unwell now when it goes to about 11(rarely) or drops very quickly. But I know that is what it is now so just go carefully. Pleased you are ok though.
Funny that it just so happens my GP has sent me a blood test form to have a blood test done because I AM ON METFORMIN. What are they playing at, and yes I agree with you how the hellHi there...i have recently been diagnosed with T2 and was also told by diabetic nurse not to test unless I felt unwell, this is duhe'll do you know if your blood glucose is ok unless you t the fact that metformin lowers your bs but will never lower them enough to cause a hypo, however i still check them every so often to make sure they are stable as T2 does progress and I also monitor when feeling unwell. I was classed as prediabetic for 3 years beforehand and only by monitoring regularly did I discover that I had moved over to full blown diabetes. Personally if you feel you would like to continue monitoring your bs then do so you are paying for the strips yourself as I do and its your body and your health.
Hi there...i have recently been diagnosed with T2 and was also told by diabetic nurse not to test unless I felt unwell, this is due to the fact that metformin lowers your bs but will never lower them enough to cause a hypo, however i still check them every so often to make sure they are stable as T2 does progress and I also monitor when feeling unwell. I was classed as prediabetic for 3 years beforehand and only by monitoring regularly did I discover that I had moved over to full blown diabetes. Personally if you feel you would like to continue monitoring your bs then do so you are paying for the strips yourself as I do and its your body and your health.
Well-being and peace of mind do not fall to the front when testing your bloods and can indicate a higher reading. I agree,with Doc, it is not so necessary to check if your on Metformin. I come up mostly 6 every single morning with my D1. I only check if I feel ill,or every 3 or 4 days. Also It is a comfort knowing I have to keep an eye on my health but not stress over it. Imagine taking your readings every single day??? Kinda like not trusting your medication ha ha .Sorry for the length of this, it is all relevent...
I felt paticularly unwell the other day, and having gone without food for over 12 hours I tested my blood. My mmol/L was 12.0, which is high (for me).
I was preparing my lunch at the time and wondered if I should still eat my main meal with this high reading, or not? My thinking being - if my reading is already high then eating could raise it even more.
So, before cooking, I thought I'd ring "111" and ask their opinion (as it was a Bank Holiday and my options were limited).
I talked with a very nice lady on the phone. She checked with her superior and came back to me to say it was OK to still eat it. She said a doctor would call me back within the next couple of hours, but if I felt worse to ring 111 again.
Sometime later, after having cooked and eaten, I got a call from another lady saying the doctor was busy but would still call me back at some point. No problem I thought.
When the doctor eventually did call me he asked some routine questions but then launched into a lecture on blood testing!
He insisted I SHOULD NOT BE TESTING at all, as I was on Metformin. According to him, nobody on Metformin should be testing as it interferes with doing so (?!).
I tried to explain I have always tested once a day, originally on my G.P.s instruction (and whilst taking Metformin). I told him the doctor stopped issuing test strips about a year ago (£££), however I have been buying them to continue testing myself (normally only once a day).
I also pointed out to him if I didn't test my blood HOW was I supposed to know whether my diabetes was "under control" or not?
I had only tested twice on this occasion as I felt so unwell. Without testing I wouldn't have known my blood sugar level was the (probable) cause of me feeling ill.
The doctor grew increasingly stroppy saying I was making up my readings, as what I had told him wasn't possible!
WHY would I do such a thing? I even agreed with him that, the longer I went without food, I would have expected my reading to get lower, not higher.
For information my reading(s) that day were:
On waking (my normal testing time) my reading was 7.4
I don't eat breakfast, as a rule.
At 1215 (before eating) and after 12 hours + without food it was 12.0
(Lunch was eaten about 1300)
At 1410 it had reduced to 8.1
At 1515 it was 5.8
I ate again at teatime.
But at 2355 it was back up at 10.4 and I was feeling quite ill again. This time I didn't phone 111, as my previous dealings with their doctor had scared me off doing so!
I live alone, and I went to bed wondering if it would go higher in my sleep and (perhaps) never wake up.
Anyway, if you are still awake after reading all this...
Has ANYONE else been told NOT to take blood glucose readings whilst using Metformin? It's the first time since being diagnosed Type 2, in 2008, that I've ever heard of it.
How the hell is a sufferer supposed to take control of their diabetes WITHOUT knowing what their blood glucose is?
Puzzled.
Drs are wrong to say no testing on Metformin.I did an hrs excersise in gym if I hadn't checked my sugars after. I would have driven the car. But my sugars were only 3-3Sorry for the length of this, it is all relevent...
I felt paticularly unwell the other day, and having gone without food for over 12 hours I tested my blood. My mmol/L was 12.0, which is high (for me).
I was preparing my lunch at the time and wondered if I should still eat my main meal with this high reading, or not? My thinking being - if my reading is already high then eating could raise it even more.
So, before cooking, I thought I'd ring "111" and ask their opinion (as it was a Bank Holiday and my options were limited).
I talked with a very nice lady on the phone. She checked with her superior and came back to me to say it was OK to still eat it. She said a doctor would call me back within the next couple of hours, but if I felt worse to ring 111 again.
Sometime later, after having cooked and eaten, I got a call from another lady saying the doctor was busy but would still call me back at some point. No problem I thought.
When the doctor eventually did call me he asked some routine questions but then launched into a lecture on blood testing!
He insisted I SHOULD NOT BE TESTING at all, as I was on Metformin. According to him, nobody on Metformin should be testing as it interferes with doing so (?!).
I tried to explain I have always tested once a day, originally on my G.P.s instruction (and whilst taking Metformin). I told him the doctor stopped issuing test strips about a year ago (£££), however I have been buying them to continue testing myself (normally only once a day).
I also pointed out to him if I didn't test my blood HOW was I supposed to know whether my diabetes was "under control" or not?
I had only tested twice on this occasion as I felt so unwell. Without testing I wouldn't have known my blood sugar level was the (probable) cause of me feeling ill.
The doctor grew increasingly stroppy saying I was making up my readings, as what I had told him wasn't possible!
WHY would I do such a thing? I even agreed with him that, the longer I went without food, I would have expected my reading to get lower, not higher.
For information my reading(s) that day were:
On waking (my normal testing time) my reading was 7.4
I don't eat breakfast, as a rule.
At 1215 (before eating) and after 12 hours + without food it was 12.0
(Lunch was eaten about 1300)
At 1410 it had reduced to 8.1
At 1515 it was 5.8
I ate again at teatime.
But at 2355 it was back up at 10.4 and I was feeling quite ill again. This time I didn't phone 111, as my previous dealings with their doctor had scared me off doing so!
I live alone, and I went to bed wondering if it would go higher in my sleep and (perhaps) never wake up.
Anyway, if you are still awake after reading all this...
Has ANYONE else been told NOT to take blood glucose readings whilst using Metformin? It's the first time since being diagnosed Type 2, in 2008, that I've ever heard of it.
How the hell is a sufferer supposed to take control of their diabetes WITHOUT knowing what their blood glucose is?
Puzzled.
I find with exercise my BG can drop but rebounds back to the 4's but heavy mental exercise can leave me down in the 3'sDrs are wrong to say no testing on Metformin.I did an hrs excersise in gym if I hadn't checked my sugars after. I would have driven the car. But my sugars were only 3-3
Hello Michael2457, your metformin dose should be taken in one dose, (unless your gp, tells you differently) after the meal, as it works with the pancreas. Most T2's take this dose twice a day after the breakfast and evening meal, your gp will give you the plan. Make sure you understand the directions for taking it, I take my metformin this way, with the gliclazide before meals. We are all here to help you and support you. The foods that you have eaten, the ones that push your bg readings up are the ones that might need to be left out, and when you achieve the balance you want then trying taking back foods could be tried. Good luck and let us know how you get on with the gp, ttfn from Karen.Looks like I'm In for "telling off" at my first diabetes nurse appt since diagnosis then! lol As I have been testing every day as I'm trying to find out which foods are better for me. I plan to take three weeks of readings in! lol
I am on 500mg,my dosage increases to a 1000mg tomorrow.Do I take that all at once or 2 separate 500mg doses please?