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<blockquote data-quote="Oldvatr" data-source="post: 2602034" data-attributes="member: 196898"><p>I know he did say it, but not sure when. I am also not sure he is correct in that. If it was simply weight loss then other diet plans such as WW, Slimming world, South Beach and other vlcal diets would also be able to claim diabetes remission, but all I have seen is a one liner saying to the effect that their diet can reduce blood glucose levels. WW say their plan can help you reach your goals.</p><p></p><p>Even slimfast and Optifast do not claim remission.</p><p></p><p>ND was funded originally by the NHS to explore a cheaper alternative to bariatric surgery. The diabetes aspect was funded by DUK since surgery does offer a possible route to Remission. What Roy Taylor did was produce a turnkey solution that anyone could use. Simple instructions, minimum preparation and easily controlled. He made it a simplle wash-rinse-repeat procedure that the NHS is able to offer to the primary care patients that is relatively cheap and effective. The magic lies in the repeatability and formulaic procedure, but anyone can buy shakes and do the diet at home. The work Taylor did proved it was safe to use, was within nutritional guidelines (by using pre approved shakes) and broke no taboos.</p><p></p><p>ND has only ever done the diet using commercial shakes as meal replacements. It has not proven any other pathway to remission. So his comment is out of his ???? and not substantiated by other diets. The closest alternative is the Fast 800 series of diets and they have no scientific study to prove safety or efficacy to the same extent. Low carb is (as readers of this site will know) following on and believed to be a contender but until there is a study done to prove it, then the NHS will not endorse it. However, the NHS does accept low carb as being an acceptable tool and this website does offer a diet plan that is approved by the NHS but it cannot claim Remission. Only Control.</p><p></p><p>Personally I think what Taylor said is true, but his plan is the only one so far to tick all the political nutritional boxes for the NHS. And thats how Prof Mike Lean wants it. He is offering the Mike Lean Eat Balanced Diet which is an offshoot from his ND work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldvatr, post: 2602034, member: 196898"] I know he did say it, but not sure when. I am also not sure he is correct in that. If it was simply weight loss then other diet plans such as WW, Slimming world, South Beach and other vlcal diets would also be able to claim diabetes remission, but all I have seen is a one liner saying to the effect that their diet can reduce blood glucose levels. WW say their plan can help you reach your goals. Even slimfast and Optifast do not claim remission. ND was funded originally by the NHS to explore a cheaper alternative to bariatric surgery. The diabetes aspect was funded by DUK since surgery does offer a possible route to Remission. What Roy Taylor did was produce a turnkey solution that anyone could use. Simple instructions, minimum preparation and easily controlled. He made it a simplle wash-rinse-repeat procedure that the NHS is able to offer to the primary care patients that is relatively cheap and effective. The magic lies in the repeatability and formulaic procedure, but anyone can buy shakes and do the diet at home. The work Taylor did proved it was safe to use, was within nutritional guidelines (by using pre approved shakes) and broke no taboos. ND has only ever done the diet using commercial shakes as meal replacements. It has not proven any other pathway to remission. So his comment is out of his ???? and not substantiated by other diets. The closest alternative is the Fast 800 series of diets and they have no scientific study to prove safety or efficacy to the same extent. Low carb is (as readers of this site will know) following on and believed to be a contender but until there is a study done to prove it, then the NHS will not endorse it. However, the NHS does accept low carb as being an acceptable tool and this website does offer a diet plan that is approved by the NHS but it cannot claim Remission. Only Control. Personally I think what Taylor said is true, but his plan is the only one so far to tick all the political nutritional boxes for the NHS. And thats how Prof Mike Lean wants it. He is offering the Mike Lean Eat Balanced Diet which is an offshoot from his ND work. [/QUOTE]
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