I think you might have got that wrong...... visceral fat is fat around the internal organs like the panceas, liver etc etc.......Subcutaneous fat is the big beer belly type fat just below the skin. M<y understanding is that you can have visceral fat and not be obese.... Im always open to correction howeverI take that as an insult. Obviously, like most people, I know the difference. The large waist and pot belly indicate the visceral type.The Dexa Machines in my area are in huge demand. I was put in a 3 month queue for one but was lucky enough to get a cancellation albeit at 9am at less than 24 hours notice. They have other uses besides fat.
I think you might have got that wrong...... visceral fat is fat around the internal organs like the panceas, liver etc etc.......Subcutaneous fat is the big beer belly type fat just below the skin. M<y understanding is that you can have visceral fat and not be obese.... Im always open to correction however
Sub cutaneous means literally sub "under", cutaneous "skin". Visceral means of the "gut". My understanding is that these terms are slightly misused especially visceral to mean pancreatic and liver fat but also fat round other internal organs like the heart kidneys and bowel (eg belly fat); and subcutaneous to mean more strictly the fat under the skin such as the fat some ( but not all) women tend to carry directly under the skin on their hips thighs and bottoms. The visceral fat is the stuff that's important for diabetes. Subcutaneous fat is the stuff we store in the "right" place in case of famine. In my case a very long famine!I think you might have got that wrong...... visceral fat is fat around the internal organs like the panceas, liver etc etc.......Subcutaneous fat is the big beer belly type fat just below the skin. M<y understanding is that you can have visceral fat and not be obese.... Im always open to correction however
I think you might have got that wrong...... visceral fat is fat around the internal organs like the panceas, liver etc etc.......Subcutaneous fat is the big beer belly type fat just below the skin. M<y understanding is that you can have visceral fat and not be obese.... Im always open to correction however
You have the truth. And visceral fat is the target for diabetes to notable improve your metabolism. From my experience it is the last fat going out of your body in process of weight loss. :-(
[PDF]NHS Diagnostic Waiting Times and Activity Data - NHS EnglandI would have imagined that you as a Newcastle Diet devotee would understand only too well the importance of knowing visceral fat levels especially around the liver and pancreas. What do you think Prof Taylor is looking for in his scans?
I could well have got one privately but wasn't aware of anywhere locally offering the service and more to the point neither was the "diabetes overseer" at my surgery who had never heard of the Dexa.
Looking in the mirror isn't an especially "scientific" way of looking for visceral fat.. ask any TOFI and BMI is a completely useless measure too as I'm sure you are perfectly aware. Neither method is any good at looking for visceral fat.
As for why should the NHS pay for it? Aren't they there to preserve our health?
I'm not going to bother to argue with you as you obviously seem to be under the impression that subcutaneous fat and visceral fat are the same thing. Which they patently aren't. So the NHS has the Dexa machines but won't use them on patients who have paid for them through their taxes and national insurance. Not surprising....but disappointing especially as I imagine they sit there unused for most of the time as apparently even the doctors don't know about their various uses. Money well spent NHS?
Visceral fat is body fat that is stored within the abdominal cavity and is therefore stored around a number of important internal organs such as the liver, pancreas and intestines. ... Storing higher amounts of visceral fat is associated with increased risks of a number of health problems including type 2 diabetes..Subcutaneous fat is the big beer belly type fat just below the skin.
Not meThere is evidence to suggest that for some people the visceral fat can be the first to be lost when dietary changes are made.
I would be surprised if the NHS offer DXA for body composition, I think at the moment they are only offered to adults for bone density scanning. I believe, not 100% Sure, that they are looking at DXA for body composition but this is still in research. Might be worth seeing if there are any trials about that you could join. Or you probably could have it done privately if you were keen to have it done. I suppose it depends on how much the measurement means to you and whether you would be able to change anything significantly even if you knew to justify the coat of having it done privately.Kind of.. I have never seen the doctor concerning Type 2 alway the nurses apart from one specific appointment I made to try and get a dexa scan to look at visceral fat. GP had never heard of it.. I also mentioned the Newcastle Diet and Prof Roy Taylor. Doc had never heard of either and he's the GP with responsibility for diabetes in the practise! Apart from that I have only ever seen either the diabetes nurse or the practise nurse (when the DN had quit and not been replaced). Have been met with ignorance (from the DN's) and a full blown row with the PN concerning carbs. Need less to say all results now online and minimal contact between me and the surgery apart from blood tests.
Had one of those done privately. Scored 40 which after 30 years of drinking , smoking and being overweight I thought was ok.. now will monitor every couple of years to make sure no worsening.what do you think of the calcium score scan for your heart?
From your linked piece..Visceral fat is body fat that is stored within the abdominal cavity and is therefore stored around a number of important internal organs such as the liver, pancreas and intestines. ... Storing higher amounts of visceral fat is associated with increased risks of a number of health problems including type 2 diabetes.
Visceral Fat (Active Fat) - Types of Fat, Insulin Resistance & Health Risks
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/body/visceral-fat.html
This is an easy but not entirely accurate way to measure your visceral fat. Simplymeasure the circumference of each with a tape measure (around the largest point) and then divide the waist measurement by the hip measurement. If the number is worse than 1.0 for men, or 0.85 for women then they are considered excessive.
How to Measure and Lose Visceral Fat - Health Guidance
www.healthguidance.org/entry/16040/1/How-to-Measure-and-Lose-Visceral-Fat.html
I was thinking about getting the procedure done privately also. Rang the private clinic and they wouldnt answer the phone lolHad one of those done privately. Scored 40 which after 30 years of drinking , smoking and being overweight I thought was ok.. now will monitor every couple of years to make sure no worsening.
I had mine done at Rivers Hospital in Hertfordshire £225 last yearI was thinking about getting the procedure done privately also. Rang the private clinic and they wouldnt answer the phone lol
Many congratulations on giving up smoking. It was the hardest thing I ever did.Had one of those done privately. Scored 40 which after 30 years of drinking , smoking and being overweight I thought was ok.. now will monitor every couple of years to make sure no worsening.
Strangely I found it quite easy.. a new partner who hated kissing a smoker made it simple.Many congratulations on giving up smoking. It was the hardest thing I ever did.
I used nicotine replacement. I gave up successfully but wanted to die. Then I went to the doctor and got Zyban. That worked. I believe there is a new and even better one now called champix. My mother said "you have to do it sometime so you may as well do it now". I think she was right. The best of luck to you.I need to give up smoking made all the usual excuses so far.
It is said you can even be skinny yet have visceral fat. It's called TOFI - thin on the outside, fat on the inside! I doubt if it works the other way round - if you are obese IMO you are pretty sure to have visceral fat as well.M<y understanding is that you can have visceral fat and not be obese
https://www.supplementplace.co.uk/blog/visceral-fat-measurement/It is said you can even be skinny yet have visceral fat. It's called TOFI - thin on the outside, fat on the inside! I doubt if it works the other way round - if you are obese IMO you are pretty sure to have visceral fat as well.
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