At the risk of stating the obvious, those results suggest you should avoid carby food.
Yes, clearly! Especially in the form of a Rapilose OGTT solution. It didn't even taste very nice, which was probably the most upsetting thing
I was curious about the "shape of the curve" though. I haven't graphed it yet but clearly it's a very steep rise to dangerous levels then quite a steep fall. From the example graphs online they suggest someone with T2 can expect a much smoother 'graph' and to "stay high" for quite some time.
Mine was very steep, got to an even higher level than some of the example graphs, then had a very steep fall. Had I not measured every 20 minutes, I might have thought I just had "impaired glucose tolerance" as per the WHO guidelines. But the massive rise in between suggests it would be crazy to assume I had merely had "impaired glucose tolerance".
Have you ever done an OGTT and if so what sort of "shape" did you get?
Or anyone else reading this?
Adam - Did you do this from fasting, first thing? I understand that's the usual protocol; fast overnight, rock up - test, down the drink, sit around for a couple of hours, then test again.
I did mine at home, reading the forum in between testing every 15 minutes. I didn't carb up either, on the guidance of my Endo, although to be fair that specific discussion was relating to coeliac testing.
If you had eaten before your OGTT, you may have corrupted your own results.
As @bulkbiker posted his, I'll add mine in, but with the same caveat of being about three and a half years in at that time. I stopped when I did because I had naturally rebounded off the low
U dun have diabetes or even impaired glucose intolerance based on what u attached. U really reversed your type 2? From what i read online there is no cure for diabete.
Well, you can make your mind up about whether you believe in reversal. Different people have different outcomes.
In brief, I was diagnosed T2 since October 2013. No medication.
HbA1c Lab Results:
October 13: 73 or 8.8% (How did that happen?)
February 14: 37 or 5.5%
May 14: 34 or 5.3%
August 14: 32 or 5.1%
November 14: 33 or 5.1%
May 15: 31 or 5.0%
October 15: 33 or 5.1%
September 16: 31 or 5.0%
November 17: 33 or 5.1%
March 18: 30 or 4.9%.
Work in progress, but GP has taken me off the Diabetes Register.
Hi @AdamJames
These are my results from my home OGTT
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I measured every 15 minutes but had to go out at the 3 hour mark hence the later readings similar shape to yours although less extreme.
I too refrained from the pre test "carb up"
Remember this is after 2 years of ultra low carb whereas you are still in fairly early days. The good thing is you have a baseline against which to check future results.
Adam - Did you do this from fasting, first thing? I understand that's the usual protocol; fast overnight, rock up - test, down the drink, sit around for a couple of hours, then test again.
I did mine at home, reading the forum in between testing every 15 minutes. I didn't carb up either, on the guidance of my Endo, although to be fair that specific discussion was relating to coeliac testing.
If you had eaten before your OGTT, you may have corrupted your own results.
As @bulkbiker posted his, I'll add mine in, but with the same caveat of being about three and a half years in at that time. I stopped when I did because I had naturally rebounded off the low
Please do not try to compare your results with other people's. It can either depress you or lead to false elation! We are all at different stages etc etc.
I didn't carb-up beforehand. I had intended to but couldn't think of what to eat so didn't bother.
I tested every 15 minutes for 3 hours. I started at 5.9 and peaked at exactly one hour with a 13.6mmol/l (so a rise of 7.7) and was back to below where I started at 2hrs 45mins then I continued to drop down into the low 4s before having a well deserved cup of tea with milk followed by lunch.
I didn't carb-up beforehand. I had intended to but couldn't think of what to eat so didn't bother.
@AdamJames
Have you heard of 1st and 2nd insulin responses?
I don't want to bore you, if you have read it all before, but there is some interesting info on the www.bloodsugar101.com website on the subject, if you are interested.
I believe the info is in the section on how blood glucose dysfunction develops.
Hope that helps.
@AdamJames what prompted you to undertake this extreme "experiment" on yourself ?
I actually thought this... put them on an ogtt and they will have to face reality as what i read online about "there is no cure".
It was shown clearly in the first Newcastle study that it is possible to go from failing an OGTT to passing one, via the restoration of first-phase insulin response. The method used to achieve that was rapid weight loss. This corresponded to removal of fat from the liver (quite quickly) and the pancreas (more slowly).
There is good but not universally accepted evidence that what happened was that beta-cells which had stopped functioning due to fat content (inside the cells, interestingly, not surrounding them), once the fat was removed, started functioning again.
Another question mark is: if the method requires substantial weight loss, how sustainable is it? The stats for losing significant weight and keeping it off are not great, i.e. appalling.
Another question mark is time - it seems to get much less likely to succeed at around the 10 year mark from diagnosis.
Another question mark is: if the method requires substantial weight loss, how sustainable is it? The stats for losing significant weight and keeping it off are not great, i.e. appalling.
I'm curious to know if my current approach to things makes any measurable improvements a month down the line, and at any point in the future down the line.
I've got my fasting levels down into relatively safe territory first - that was easy to measure. But if I just go off the fact I can keep my fasting levels safe, I'm in the dark as to any underlying improvements that may be going on in the long term. If my next OGTT is much worse in spite of good fasting levels, I'll re-think things. If it's much better, I'll carry on.
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