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OAT MEAL AND BREAD

ADDEI

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Hello. I love oat meal with some fruits like strawberry, blue berry and unsweetened almond milk to spice it up. To get full satisfaction I add a slice or two toasted bread which has some raisins and cinnamon in it. Can the effects of eating the bread be neutralized by what I gain from the Oats and the fruits to maintain a good Blood glucose level?
Thanks
 
Hi and welcome @ADDEI

We all love to be eat such a great assortment of them types of foods, but alas, most of them, especially the grain varieties, would raise T2s blood glucose levels too high.
If you have a meter, you can test them yourself and see what happens.
That is the only way you will ever find out and get control.
Control is the key to unlock your future health.

If you have had @daisy1 welcome advice, then you will see what carbs do to blood glucose levels, never mind the sugars.

Hope this helps!


A few strawberries or berries should be ok.
 
Hello. I love oat meal with some fruits like strawberry, blue berry and unsweetened almond milk to spice it up. To get full satisfaction I add a slice or two toasted bread which has some raisins and cinnamon in it. Can the effects of eating the bread be neutralized by what I gain from the Oats and the fruits to maintain a good Blood glucose level?
Thanks
You may be OK but, as Nosher has said, the only way to be really sure is by testing. We are all individuals and, as such, what one person can eat another cannot. If I'm trying something new I test before and at both the one and two hour point. If my BS is still going up I test at 3 hours as well. I do the same when I next have it and, if I get the same result, I will decide whether to keep it or bin it.
 
@ADDEI

Hello and welcome to the forum :)

As mentioned above, testing is the way to see which foods are OK for you and which you should cut down on or avoid altogether. Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask all the questions you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
It's the total carb load you need to consider. Sadly, if you have bread it needs to be metabolised and apart from a dose of salmonella nothing will "neutralise" that dose of carbs.
My choice would be oatmeal or bread then fill up on something low carb.
 
One of my treats these days is: strawberries, blueberries, Greek yoghurt, loads of cinnamon, many seeds (sunflower, pumpkin, linseed), coconut shavings, and the *odd* raisin :-)... plus the odd snippet of oats.

I think bread (Burgen) is a kind of one or t'other thing these days. It's either bread OR the other stuff, not both.

I've now avoided sugars so far that when I eat a slice of toast with butter, the butter tastes sweet, and when I eat a boiled egg the yolk tastes sweet. I think.
 
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