Not what we're asking for. We are just pointing out that it's easy to say 'lose weight' not so easy to do. It isn't about willpower, it's about broken bodies not working properly. Bariatric surgery won't fix broken metabolisms.You can find information on bariatric surgery here
Not all are permanent some can be reversed if required.
What was on BBC2??Caught it accidentally for a few seconds. I probably could have watched it but chose to turn oner to BBC 2!
Newsnight!What was on BBC2??
Not as "arty" as it used to be then....?!Newsnight the weather then NFL.
What happened on Newsnight..?
Any conclusions drawn from performing the autopsy??
I watched this programme last night. I fail to see the connection with obesity.
The organ damage to the lungs, heart and kidneys was caused by untreated or untreatable long term high blood pressure, leading to heart failure. Which can happen to someone of any size.
The fatty liver disease was not explained, and could be related to the hypertension, and again can happen to anyone of any size as it appears to be related to what one eats, not the quantity.
The programme also stated, several times, that the role of fat in our bodies is not understood, and we dont know if fat around our organs is good or bad. So inconclusive as an anti obesity point.
I think that the "obesity is damaging and killing us" mantra is on a par with the "eating fat is killing us" mantra, and blaming people for their size, while not knowing if their size is actually a problem, lets the medical profession off the hook of addressing the issue of low fat, high carb diets in general harming the whole population.
It reminds me of the "low cholesterol is good" we are hearing, while the actual evidence is the opposite. And the "fat is bad, carbs are good" when the evidence is the opposite.
We evolved to lay down fat. Maybe the fat we now lay down, coming from harmful processed foods and carbs, is different to the fat we used to lay down. I dont know and neither do the medical professionals. Maybe this fat will prove to have a beneficial use, like cholesterol has now proved to have. I dont know, and neither do the medical professionals. They didnt show an autopsy of a healthy obese person and compare their organs to a slim person. They showed the autopsy of a seriously ill person, with an illness that can affect any age and size.
The bottom line is this: the obese, like type 2's, are being told its their fault they have medical problems, and that we cant be fit and fat. Both of which are false.
(ducks behind sofa and waits for the barrage of disagreement)
"They didnt show an autopsy of a healthy obese person"
Of course they weren't healthy. They were dead!
Sorry. I've been sat here giggling for the past ten minutes. A healthy obese person? That's a paradox and a half! Hehe.
I don't think it would have mattered if the poor woman had been hit by a bus. The fact was her internal organs were covered with excess fat, her heart muscle was enlarged from carrying around excess weight etc none of which can be healthy.People die of natural causes you know. Like old age. To use someone who has clearly suffered a long illness causing damage to their organs for a long time is not showing the effects of actual obesity. It is showing the effects of having high blood pressure for a long time. The purpose of the programme was, apparently, going by the title, to show purely the effects attributable to obesity, on the human body inside. Not the effects of high blood pressure causing heart failure, which can and does happen to slim people.
where was the actual, factual bits causing death, which they pointed to as being solely due to obesity and not found in slim people?
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