JohnEGreen
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Perhaps it's worth saying that dieting always, in the end results in weight loss, so those who say they have failed to lose weight thru diet do not have the discipline needed or a suitable diet.
I don't think it would have mattered if the poor woman had been hit by a bus. The fact was her internal organs were covered with excess fat, her heart muscle was enlarged from carrying around excess weight etc none of which can be healthy.
I challenge anyone to say they would rather be obese than not in a magic wand scenario.
Perhaps it's worth saying that dieting always, in the end results in weight loss, so those who say they have failed to lose weight thru diet do not have the discipline needed or a suitable diet. Newsreels of areas of starvation in the world show the effects of not enough food. My wife has a much lower metabolism than me and to achieve the weight loss she wants she has to have more discipline than me but she does have that and the results prove it. She is not diabetic but seriously low-carbs. It does work. When the body is obese, excess fat is deposited in many different organs e.g. liver, pancreas, circulatory system etc and each of these suffers reduced efficiency. The increased weight thru the obesity increases bone joint damage, reduces mobility and so on. Being too thin may not be good and being slightly overweight may not be a problem but obesity really is.
Hearts become enlarged when they are overworked lugging excess weight about every day. Not just in this woman's case. If you believe that being obese is not unhealthy then I cannot change your mind.Her heart was enlarged because she had heart failure. Her lungs had fluid because she had heart failure. Her kidneys were scarred becasuse she had heart failure. Cause by either untreated or untreatable hypertension for a long time. We have no way of knowing if the hypertension was caused by obesity. Many thin people have hypertension and heart failure.
Hearts become enlarged when they are overworked lugging excess weight about every day. Not just in this woman's case. If you believe that being obese is not unhealthy then I cannot change your mind.
I don't know where you are going with this. Obesity is not healthy. I'm out. I wish you all the best with your health with the cards you have been dealtso what about athletes or people who live at altitude and have an enlarged heart? are they also unhealthy? it was the high blood pressure which was the problem. Yes, some obese people are unhealthy. So are some thin people. But to say that all obese people are unhealthy because they are obese is untrue.
If you take me as an example
My priorities are, in this order:
- reducing insulin resistance (LC and IF)
- maintaining my excellent cholesterol ratios
- keeping my blood glucose to below 7.5mmol/l at all times
- maybe losing some weight
Anyone kidding themselves that losing weight will sort out all of the things that are wrong with them is in for a nasty shock in a few years time.
I have bolded the bit i am asking about. I assume that LC is low carb............but what is IF please?
I'm going for surgery. I've tried everything else. I'm handing in the towel as I cannot starve myself without at least some supervision. I have my kids to think about!yes. obesity is talked about as if it is easy to lose weight. For some, it may well be easy. For others, if dieting doesnt work, what is left to try?
They are on multivitamins for life. They eat ice cubes worth of pureed food at first then lumpier food then normal food. Like a toddlers stomach.I thought bariatric surgery involved dieting and being unable to eat. So I would have to starve to, maybe, lose weight, as 100 cals a day maintains my weight. I wonder what people eat after such surgery. Do they get malnourished after a while. And what about 10 years down the line...............
The lady in the autopsies heart was enlarged by the high BP. It was stretched to capacity without the benefit of strengthening the wall muscles associated with athletes? The consiquences of her heart failure put fluid on her lungs? Causing shortnes of breath slowing her capacity regarding any excersise down further... It was sadly a "catch 22".so what about athletes or people who live at altitude and have an enlarged heart? are they also unhealthy? it was the high blood pressure which was the problem. Yes, some obese people are unhealthy. So are some thin people. But to say that all obese people are unhealthy because they are obese is untrue.
I think asparagus is high on oatcakes.
I agree because they are still alive and healthy. Thank god for some mercies.Maybe no healthy obese person had donated their body to science recently.
I Wonder how many "healthy" donate to science..? Unless caught up in a "murder scene"..I agree because they are still alive and healthy. Thank god for some mercies.
Mahola; the movie..I've donated my body to medical science. Or whoever the heck wants it. The paperwork has been signed since I was 22.
Anything to get out of funeral costs.I've donated my body to medical science. Or whoever the heck wants it. The paperwork has been signed since I was 22
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