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poshtotty

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@Indy51 to get this into perspective, both @Helsin and I are reporting significant improvements in many areas since starting LCHF. Amongst other successes, I do refer to getting my BG down and amongst Helsin's successes she lists IBS sorting itself out. The lack of weight loss is an observation rather than an obsession, and is only an anamoly we share and I think its been raised more as a puzzle than something which is setting ourselves up for failure.

I can't speak for @Helsin but I don't actually need to lose a great deal of weight, but it would be a bonus and wouldn't do me any harm. I'm sorry if we've given the wrong impression. I don't read either of our posts as "worrying about losing weight" I don't think we are, but it is a mystery when so many others report it as an immediate benefit of LCHF.

I'm grateful for lowered BG, a regained alert mind and improved energy levels in a very short space of time. I will remain puzzled about the weight, but not concerned by it. The benefits already outweigh that. I fully accept I need BG control for life, and my other posts confirm my commitment to this new healthy way of living.
 
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Couldn't have put it better myself Dianagrace, thank you. I suppose my big real worry is that I may have to endure a few doc and nurse appointments and this DESMOND thing before my 'alternative lifestyle' shows any improvement. A much needed and significant weight loss, with its inevitable health benefits, would make me much happier to admit that I am not towing the party line.
 
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@Helsin and @dianagrace - sorry if I misread where you were both coming from.

I guess I've been reading too long at diabetes (and low carb) forums and seen too many stories of people becoming discouraged and measuring their improvements against those of others, then the falling off the wagon that often ensues. Glad to read that you're both experiencing benefits - my experience with the improvement after years of IBS and dysbiosis was similar to yours, Helsin.
 
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Helsin

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Glad we cleared that up Indy51. I'm just hoping to avoid the threatened statins prescription!
 
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Glad we cleared that up Indy51. I'm just hoping to avoid the threatened statins prescription!

They can't force you to take them even if they write you a prescription. My cholesterol was similar to yours and I'm just not taking them. Malcolm Kendrick's "The Cholesterol Con" and Duane Graveline's "The Statins Damage Crisis" confirmed it for me - despite the latter sounding like the title of an episode of the Big Bang Theory ;).
 
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poshtotty

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And I stopped taking statins too since deciding to go low carb 5 weeks ago. I've had no adverse effects but have yet to see my latest stats from the DN but it is another indication of my commitment to LCHF and my belief that this healthy eating plan will avoid the need for so much randomly prescribed medication.
 
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And I stopped taking statins too since deciding to go low carb 5 weeks ago. I've had no adverse effects but have yet to see my latest stats from the DN but it is another indication of my commitment to LCHF and my belief that this healthy eating plan will avoid the need for so much randomly prescribed medication.

Well done you that really great. I am hoping that I will be able to come off mine, I have been on them for years so don't know whether I would get any side affects if I just stopped taking them, but I am sure that it was my awful diet before being diagnosed that raised my cholesterol levels, so feel sure that with my new healthy diet (LCHF) I don't really need them.

Marilyn x
 

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Another week and still no downward movement on the scales. I'm not cheating, as my only carbohydrates are from vegetables, but I still struggle to drink the recommended amount of water and, although I am managing at least a 30 minute walk most days, I could be putting more effort in. On the plus side though, my average bg has already fallen a couple of points to 5.2 and has never exceeded 6.5 in the short time I have been testing and I seem to have effortlessly given up tobacco with the aid of e-cigarettes. I realise I have exchanged one crutch for another, but I'm patting myself on the back anyway and feeling good.
 
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Another week and still no downward movement on the scales. I'm not cheating, as my only carbohydrates are from vegetables, but I still struggle to drink the recommended amount of water and, although I am managing at least a 30 minute walk most days, I could be putting more effort in. On the plus side though, my average bg has already fallen a couple of points to 5.2 and has never exceeded 6.5 in the short time I have been testing and I seem to have effortlessly given up tobacco with the aid of e-cigarettes. I realise I have exchanged one crutch for another, but I'm patting myself on the back anyway and feeling good.

Oh you are doing so well Helsin! Giving up tobacco and getting your BG's under control are 2 very difficult things to do.......and you are succeeding at both together! Well done. Don't worry about the fact that you 'are exchanging one crutch for another', that's often the best way to start.

Like you, I am still struggling to drink enough water and I often forget that I am meant to be drinking lots. I do believe that it's important for both of us, so if you find a way of achieving this let me know please!

The most important thing is to keep patting yourself on the back because all you can do is find a good plan and stick to it. This is exactly what you are doing. Congratulate yourself every day that you stick to the plan because that is a job well done. The weight will come off eventually, but in the mean time praise your self for the effort you are putting in because it is often so hard to keep going when you don't seem to be getting any reward for all the hard work. It will happen.

Hugs
 
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Hi all,

I thought I knew masses about low carb diets, veteran that I am, but I had never properly factored in the role of glycogen and how slow the weight loss game be after glycogen reserves in the liver and big muscles have gone - nor did I realise how BIG those reserves could be. :woot:

Jenny Ruhl explains it far better than I can in her book low carb diets 101 so I won't even try, but it really shocked me that once the rapid glycogen loss phase of a low carb diet has ended, then weight loss happens at roughly the same rate as any other diet, and depends on your body, not really the diet.

I had always thought of low carb as 'special' somehow, and weight loss would be faster, but her findings contradict that.

Not that it changes my commitment to low carb. It's the only diet my body likes, so it's a no brainer for me, really.
 
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Helsin

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I'll have to see if I can kindle Low Carb Diets 101, Brunneria. Maybe it will help me. In the meantime I'll just keep off the scales for a while and go by my meter and how well I feel physically.
 

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I'll have to see if I can kindle Low Carb Diets 101, Brunneria. Maybe it will help me. In the meantime I'll just keep off the scales for a while and go by my meter and how well I feel physically.

Stay off the scales and measure yourself instead, just using a simple tape measure, not every day bot maybe once a week or every two weeks.