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<blockquote data-quote="LittleGreyCat" data-source="post: 1996281" data-attributes="member: 6467"><p>Doable but perhaps a little expensive?</p><p></p><p>Just for the heck (nearly typed a bad word) of it I decided to do a quick random price for a trip via Dover using P&O ferries. Going out Tuesday and coming back Thursday. Rough plan; travel out Tuesday to Germany (Aachen). Stop in hotel overnight. Spend Wednesday scouring Germany for Lidl rolls until the car is full or wallet is empty. Another hotel night and return Thursday. Corners could be cut to to avoid the second night but that would be going beyond hard core.</p><p></p><p>Out £40</p><p>Back £42.50</p><p>Ferry total £82.50</p><p>Mileage (according to Google Maps) 377 (- 34 miles Google Maps adds for the Channel Tunnel) = 343 miles each way = 686 miles @ 30 mpg = 23 gallons.</p><p>Roughly 4.5 litres to the gallon so this is about 103 litres.</p><p>At £1.25 per litre for diesel this is about £130 in fuel!</p><p></p><p>So cost of a Lidl roll trip might be around £212.50 plus travelling time, food, and unfair wear and tear on the driver.</p><p>Add another £80 * 2 for an hotel overnight. Now £372.50. Round up to £400 to allow for fuel used on the day in Germany.</p><p></p><p>I would have to buy 800 rolls to get them at a 50p premium (£400=50p*800) on shop price (which I think I have read is currently around 0.67 Euros in Germany). So say £1 a roll including purchase price and transport costs. £1 a roll doesn't look that bad (if you are desperate for Lidl rolls) until you realise that you are going to have to budget £800 up front. Unit cost might come down but up front cost goes up to match.</p><p></p><p>Forming a consortium to buy, say, 5,000 rolls in one trip might make more financial sense as the more you buy the less the transport costs are as a proportion of the total cost. Roughly, 10 people, 500 rolls each up front at say £0.60 a roll is £300, plus 1/10 of £400 travel and transport costs (£40) means you might get 500 rolls for £340. About £0.68p per roll which doesn't look too shabby.</p><p></p><p>You would, of course, have to come to an understanding with Lidl Germany beforehand to make sure that they have 5,000 rolls available to collect. The frozen rolls that they bake on site would be a more sensible option. Commitment to bake them all (500) as soon as they arrive at home, then freeze them.</p><p></p><p>Figures above are an unchecked hack so may be wildly out.</p><p>There would be incidentals such as distributing the rolls to the consortium (who might be anywhere in the UK).</p><p></p><p>Conversely there might be an opportunity for someone to have a day or so in Germany at least partly funded by the consortium. I assume that there would be no issues over bringing that many rolls back in one go whilst we are EU members. Post Brexit anything could happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LittleGreyCat, post: 1996281, member: 6467"] Doable but perhaps a little expensive? Just for the heck (nearly typed a bad word) of it I decided to do a quick random price for a trip via Dover using P&O ferries. Going out Tuesday and coming back Thursday. Rough plan; travel out Tuesday to Germany (Aachen). Stop in hotel overnight. Spend Wednesday scouring Germany for Lidl rolls until the car is full or wallet is empty. Another hotel night and return Thursday. Corners could be cut to to avoid the second night but that would be going beyond hard core. Out £40 Back £42.50 Ferry total £82.50 Mileage (according to Google Maps) 377 (- 34 miles Google Maps adds for the Channel Tunnel) = 343 miles each way = 686 miles @ 30 mpg = 23 gallons. Roughly 4.5 litres to the gallon so this is about 103 litres. At £1.25 per litre for diesel this is about £130 in fuel! So cost of a Lidl roll trip might be around £212.50 plus travelling time, food, and unfair wear and tear on the driver. Add another £80 * 2 for an hotel overnight. Now £372.50. Round up to £400 to allow for fuel used on the day in Germany. I would have to buy 800 rolls to get them at a 50p premium (£400=50p*800) on shop price (which I think I have read is currently around 0.67 Euros in Germany). So say £1 a roll including purchase price and transport costs. £1 a roll doesn't look that bad (if you are desperate for Lidl rolls) until you realise that you are going to have to budget £800 up front. Unit cost might come down but up front cost goes up to match. Forming a consortium to buy, say, 5,000 rolls in one trip might make more financial sense as the more you buy the less the transport costs are as a proportion of the total cost. Roughly, 10 people, 500 rolls each up front at say £0.60 a roll is £300, plus 1/10 of £400 travel and transport costs (£40) means you might get 500 rolls for £340. About £0.68p per roll which doesn't look too shabby. You would, of course, have to come to an understanding with Lidl Germany beforehand to make sure that they have 5,000 rolls available to collect. The frozen rolls that they bake on site would be a more sensible option. Commitment to bake them all (500) as soon as they arrive at home, then freeze them. Figures above are an unchecked hack so may be wildly out. There would be incidentals such as distributing the rolls to the consortium (who might be anywhere in the UK). Conversely there might be an opportunity for someone to have a day or so in Germany at least partly funded by the consortium. I assume that there would be no issues over bringing that many rolls back in one go whilst we are EU members. Post Brexit anything could happen. [/QUOTE]
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