Alison Campbell
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Tablets (oral)
A lot of carb values are part of the nutiritional information on commercial restaurant and supermarket websites. There are also useful web based and smartphone apps where you can log your daily carbs with databases of nutritional information. After a while of using them I can estimate carbs well enough for my needs.Where you can’t read a label on something,like if you go out and eat
What would you classify as high carbs?I’m guessing pizza and fries,things like that? Where you can’t read a label on something,like if you go out and eat
I would have a different view on reducing chicken and steak, as I would increase these staples. Calories are secondary to carbs, as 400 grams of carbs are treated different by our bodies compared to 400 grams of protein / fat. Ask any questions you like, as there is a lot of misinformation about meat.
Hi Larryr, thanks for the tag @Antje77 .
Welcome to the forum. I’m a similar age to you and was diagnosed with type 2 18 months ago. I was well overweight (officially obese) and had been for over 20 years. I had given upon dieting, low fat this and that, shakes, fruit diet, soup diet, you name it I’d tried them. My type 2 diagnosis was a blessing in disguise. I went low carb to get my blood sugars under control but that had the happy side effect of weight loss. To date I have lost over six stone without counting a single calorie and my HbA1c has been at a non diabetic level for over a year now.
If you could give us a little more info about yourself, if you are comfortable doing so it will help us guide you. Do you know your latest HbA1c? Do you take any meds? And do you monitor your bloods at home?
Lucky you, you love meat! It's very low carb (and as others stated, forget about calories, they don't actually matter all that much). I stay under 20 grams of carbs a day, so hovering around 50 or less should be easy. For me, it's eggs, bacon, mushrooms, cheese in the morning (no toast or wraps!). Lunch a salad with a can of tuna, (in oil, not brine), olives, avocado, mayo, capers... Dinner meat or fish, and cauliflower rice or broccoli rice with cheese and even more bacon. Baaaacon! Want to snack? Square or two of extra dark chocolate, some cheese, olives, pork scratchings sound okay? Lost 25 kilo's in the last 2 years, while there's more messing with my metabolism than "just" T2, so it's entirely doable. Cholesterol is fine too, non-alcoholic liver disease is improving, so yeah.. It's not all as hopeless as you may think. Eggs. Meat. Above-ground veggies. Knock yourself out. (Skip potatoes, pasta, rice, cereal, corn, bread or anything made with flour, really. Starches aren't doing you any favours, as practically all carbs turn to glucose once ingested.)
There's hope for you yet.But do get a meter, as it's so very helpful in seeing what certain foods do to your bloodglucose. (Before a meal and 2 hours after first bite shouldn't see an increase higher than 2.0 mmol/l)
Brilliant, asking would have saved me three quarters of a year of harder work than necessary (I was still eating oats and home made soda bread)I will,thank you
I’ll only see my family doctor on dec 17 and from their I guess I’ll be going to a diabetic dr
I’m really new,I go for a another blood test on the 15th.I have no medicine or testers yet,I’ll know more,I’m guessing,in a few weeks
Most doctors don't give monitors to Type 2s which IMHO a real shame because then you have no idea what foods are doing to you. Diet is the most important factor for managing Type 2.
You can buy your own at any pharmacy (I did). Tagging @Rachox who has information about low cost monitors - you are fortunate in the UK, those monitors and test strips are considerably cheaper than anything I can buy here (Canada).
@Larryr
Hello Larry and welcome to the ForumHere is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
Reduce your carbohydrates
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.
Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.
- Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
- Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
Hi Larry.I’m in Canada too,so I’ll look around,thanks
I’m in Canada too,so I’ll look around,thanks
A lot of what I’ve seen is showing lots of good things to help with the diabetes but a lot this I don’t think will help with trying to lose weight.I know moderation is very helpful but even moderation with this won’t help me,right now anyways,and good ideas or anything,lol,sorry,I know I’m probably grasping at air but that’s all I got
Thanks
A lot of what I’ve seen is showing lots of good things to help with the diabetes but a lot this I don’t think will help with trying to lose weight.I know moderation is very helpful but even moderation with this won’t help me,right now anyways,and good ideas or anything,lol,sorry,I know I’m probably grasping at air but that’s all I got
Thanks
HiThanks,I’ve stopped eating bread,with my lunch I’ve gone to a wrap,90 calories each,I have 2 a day,no more potatoes or fries,I’m ok with that part,but I know theirs calories in chicken and steak so will have to cut down on that,I’ve been reading to go with 6 ounces at dinner but I’m used to 10 or 12,minimum!!
The 200 grams of net carbs would be a reason for feeling hungry and would hinder weight loss and diabetes control. Like you I want a lot of food. I removed carbs, increased good fats (cheese, avocado, full fat yogurt, nuts), then I pulled back a little the fats and increased protein as I weight train (suggest barbell squats, deadlift, bench press as staples in preference to cardio).
i would agree with this, a tweak to diet, reduce potatoes etc increase other veges like pumpkin etc and yes nuts etc.. i think i got this sorted by eliminating sugar and fruit juice in fact any thing that not whole food, and by reducing weight this helped but i made no particular effort to do .. it just happened HOWEVER this may not work for everyone and every case unique..... good luck with it all and happy to discuss and offer comments
Hi
i got my first hint of a sugar problem about 18 mths ago, peeing dry throat... ... i suspected what the issues was... but had it checked... doc said i was very high fasting like 8%... .. i was determined not to do medicine and said lets try a diet and exercise... ihad this under 6% with 6 weeks and have kept to my diet which is very simple zero sugar.. i eat bread rice etc upped protein a bit and got my weight from 102 kg to 88kg.. and the weight just fell off when i stopped eating sugar... in fact i need ot watch it because it will continue down if i dont eat properly .. im now at 5.2% fasting... feel great... i would not say im cured but i am cured of sugar .. some of us will need medicine but do not allow this to keep you sugar up.. i was drinking 3 to 4 cans of softdrink per day and this probably the main cause .. i like my weight feels good and i do moderate and not crazy exercise
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