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Own Worst Enemy

Mud Island Dweller

Mud Island Dweller

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
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An awful lot.
At a rally this weekend last night was everone taking something for a meal.
l had 2 plateloads of mains and a profier roll pre was 5.5 post 5.7

Guy we sat with t2 eats what he wants said no one would tell him what to eat. He never has his blood hba1c tested, wont waste time testing and said he would rather live a short happy life. This consisted last night of
2 plates loaded with rice, meat and potato pie, potato salad, breaded, chicken nuggets, garlic bread, etc. Pudding slice choc cake, slice white sponge cake, thick apple pie and cream and profriter rolls

l told him oh yes he would have a short happy one but will end up on a good chance of a long unhappy pain filled end.
He was actually taken aback at that as l wasn't joking and he realised it. By time l told him about Kev he was pretty damm quiet.
Macho bravado is a mugs game you are fooling yourself and only you will live with your pain.

Another lady who is T2 unstable and insulin resistant on injections was very interested l hope she did log on and join she would benefit l am sure.
 
Maybe, just maybe you got through to this guy. He might just go home and have a long, hard think on everything you told him. That could have been a life-saving conversation for him, and a huge feather in your cap!
 
How old was he?

I have known a few people (through work) who have been diagnosed in middle age (like a lot of us), and most of them have been totally unable to make dietry adjustments. I mean totally UNABLE. It is as if they cannot make a connection between what goes into their mouth, and the disease that is slowly killing them.

Of course, this isn't helped if their doctor advises them to 'eat normally' if their idea of normal is bread, cake, biscuits and chips.

That sounds very ageist, doesn't it? But of the (small sample of) people I am talking about, the younger they were at diagnosis, the more flexible they were able to be with their diet.

It has been wonderful for me to discover that there are people of every age here on this forum, committed to making whatever changes are necessary to get control of this disease.
 
Yes you are right about age 50ish l think and nothing ageist l have also noticed the age over eat thing.

He said his dr told him to eat how he wanted so long as he took his metformin 3x a day.

If l was given a choice to undiabetes l probably wouldnt as l have finally got control of my life and eating as you say thanks to this forum.

The problem is if you slice your hand open you see a wound feel pain.
Diabetes you see numbers on a small screen. Some of us have pre symptoms then post dx and control they go but many have no symptoms.
Once the symptoms go it is a very silent long term killer and the danger is the lack of symptoms on a day to day basis.
A relief as l dont want any but for those who ignore the problem......
 
It's getting on for a year since James' diagnosis and my introduction to the world of T2 and I am coming to the conclusion that Metformin is a dangerous drug. Not because of the usual sort of drug dangers, but because so many T2's seem to think that as long as they take it, that's a case of "job done". I've found myself chatting to people in the pub, who note that we are on a restricted diet (I support James in his low carb diet) and the subject of diabetes comes up. Yes, they are diabetic too, they tell me between mouthfuls of chips! They have metformin and the doctor is happy, why are we making life difficult for ourselves?
Sally
 
I think we have generally become a nation of people believing that if you have a problem drugs will sort it. With the dr or dsn saying biscuits and cakes are ok occasionally what are people supposed to think.
 
If I wasn't so damned cantankerous and difficult I'd be happily stuffing my face with the NHS (in)healthy plate which my doc, dn, the dn at the hospital, my work colleagues and the consular advocate. Luckily I can read, have access to the internet and an inquiring mind. So I eat low carb, moderate fat.
The Posts I've read so far sadden me as they echo my own beliefs and experiences. I have a colleague who refuses to change. By the time they realise, it will be too late for some of them. :(
 
i dun blame him. when being told that its not going to recover, many like him wants to live happy when complications sets in they will choose to die. thats what happening now to my mum. she saw a friend having his toe amputated and she just said that she will wait for it to come and live with it.
 
Anie wrote, "People don't understand the word occasionally!".

May I make the following suggestion, possibly to be adopted by the NHS, to issue to all new diabetics"

Days when you should feel free to eat anything you fancy:

Your own birthday (1 day, if head of state, 2 days)

Partner’s birthday (1 day, if a “bit of a lad”, maybe 2 days)

Children’s birthdays (who knows, say 3 days)

Brothers’, sisters’, parents’, aunts’, uncles’, cousins, grandparents’ birthdays (must be at least 30).

Aunty Flo’s birthday. (not a real aunty, but almost, one day)

Wedding anniversary. (1)

Anniversary of the day you met (1, or more, see above)

Valentine’s Day. (1)

Easter weekend. (4 days)

Any day between 15 December and 2 January (19 days)

Everyone in the office’s birthday. (20 days)

Friends’ and neighbours’ birthdays (20 days)

Fridays. (well, it is the end of the week, 52 days)

Holidays and annual leave. (25 days).​


If any of your days coincide, for example your friend’s birthday is on Valentine’s day, do take an extra day in lieu on some other occasion.


We know the other 185 days will be difficult, so don’t hesitate to treat yourself, if you feel you really need it. After all, we can always give you some more drugs to compensate.

All tongue in cheek, of course!
Sally.
 
sally and james said:
Anie wrote, "People don't understand the word occasionally!".

May I make the following suggestion, possibly to be adopted by the NHS, to issue to all new diabetics"

Days when you should feel free to eat anything you fancy:

Your own birthday (1 day, if head of state, 2 days)

Partner’s birthday (1 day, if a “bit of a lad”, maybe 2 days)

Children’s birthdays (who knows, say 3 days)

Brothers’, sisters’, parents’, aunts’, uncles’, cousins, grandparents’ birthdays (must be at least 30).

Aunty Flo’s birthday. (not a real aunty, but almost, one day)

Wedding anniversary. (1)

Anniversary of the day you met (1, or more, see above)

Valentine’s Day. (1)

Easter weekend. (4 days)

Any day between 15 December and 2 January (19 days)

Everyone in the office’s birthday. (20 days)

Friends’ and neighbours’ birthdays (20 days)

Fridays. (well, it is the end of the week, 52 days)

Holidays and annual leave. (25 days).​

If any of your days coincide, for example your friend’s birthday is on Valentine’s day, do take an extra day in lieu on some other occasion.

We know the other 185 days will be difficult, so don’t hesitate to treat yourself, if you feel you really need it. After all, we can always give you some more drugs to compensate.

All tongue in cheek, of course!
Sally.
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What did it for me was when I went on the diabetes website advocated by the NHS and they said " when baking a cake, only use half the sugar, when making jam....." My immediate reaction - ***!!!!!!!!!! I'm diabetic! I'm not supposed to be eating #%>?}~!!!!! Cake!!!!! Luckily, when I went to show my husband I couldn't remember the address and luckily ended up on here! I have never looked back since!
 
mine said:
i dun blame him. when being told that its not going to recover, many like him wants to live happy when complications sets in they will choose to die. thats what happening now to my mum. she saw a friend having his toe amputated and she just said that she will wait for it to come and live with it.
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An elderly gentelman we knew had been T2 for over 30 years and the only thing he did not eat was sugar stuff like cake, biscuits and pastries etc he had never heard of low carbing but he never developed any diabetic complications He died last year at the age of 93 from a chest infection that turned to pneumonia and until then had been in good health and was very active for his age.
As there is no long term medical evidence that low carbing will prevent complications we can only go on doing it and hope for the best. I think it is the luck of the draw that some will and some won't have complications
 
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the problem with stories like this is there will be exceptions to every rule, the oldest lady in the world (sadly now dead) stopped smoking at like 118 or something like that, that dosent mean smoking is ok right, it would be an unlikely payoff to hope you are that exception :)
 
Andy12345 said:
the problem with stories like this is there will be exceptions to every rule, the oldest lady in the world (sadly now dead) stopped smoking at like 118 or something like that, that dosent mean smoking is ok right, it would be an unlikely payoff to hope you are that exception :)
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Yep. I have no complications yet (bangs wood with head) with my control but there can be some poor ****** with exactly the same control as me but they may have complications because of the luck of genetics.


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Until I found this site I thought all you had to do was avoid sugar. I learned more in 1 day reading this site than I did in the previous 18 years. I am finally taking control of my own health and losing weight. Thank you to everyone who has and is helping me.
 
Mothership said:
Until I found this site I thought all you had to do was avoid sugar. I learned more in 1 day reading this site than I did in the previous 18 years. I am finally taking control of my own health and losing weight. Thank you to everyone who has and is helping me.
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That was what I thought too. This site has been a life saver!
 
Mothership said:
Until I found this site I thought all you had to do was avoid sugar. I learned more in 1 day reading this site than I did in the previous 18 years. I am finally taking control of my own health and losing weight. Thank you to everyone who has and is helping me.
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Yes.
It has been a great relief to have so much constructive help!
 
AnnieC said:
An elderly gentelman we knew had been T2 for over 30 years and the only thing he did not eat was sugar stuff like cake, biscuits and pastries etc he had never heard of low carbing but he never developed any diabetic complications He died last year at the age of 93 from a chest infection that turned to pneumonia and until then had been in good health and was very active for his age.
As there is no long term medical evidence that low carbing will prevent complications we can only go on doing it and hope for the best. I think it is the luck of the draw that some will and some won't have complications
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all i wants to do now is not going on medication. its going to be expensive and long process.
 
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