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Parkrun

I love parkrun. I'm on 78 parkruns, desperately counting down to my 100 shirt.

For me Saturday is all about parkrun, if I'm not traveling for work, then I'm either running, run directing, or volunteering. I don't think that I've deliberately missed one for 2.5 years. At the moment (since moving house) I drive 60 miles down the motorway to participate in my "home" parkrun (Oak Hill).

When I nervously turned up at my first one, I struggled to get around the whole course. 2.5 years later and I'm training for the Berlin Marathon. I credit parkrun with turning me into a "proper runner" (albeit a slow one).

http://www.parkrun.org.uk/oak-hill/results/athletehistory/?athleteNumber=190582

If anyone wants to run any of the North London, or East of England parkruns, I'll happily come and do it with you, and share a post run coffee after you drop me on the first lap.
 

That's really inspiring! Great you're training for the Berlin Marathon too - how's that going?
 
Hah ha ha - I can quite believe that they like you to carb load.
Carbing and also staying well hydrated is actually pretty good advice. No problem having a low carb diet, just make sure that during or after a demanding training session you replenish your muscle and liver stores with a carb/protein shake (or whatever form takes your fancy). I can understand your reluctance to do this, but actually during exercise, and the hour or so after you finish exercise your body uses carbs to re-stock depleted stores in your muscles and liver. Unlike other times where unecessary carbs can just end up being ferried off to fat stores, they are actually an essential part of your body's recovery. Remember the benefits of you exercising in relation to your improved insulin sensitivity will last for hours to come, so you won't be undoing the hard work.
Anyway, it might be worth considering carbing to some extent - without giving your body a helping hand you can end up feeling pretty fatigued, and you won't be able to perform at your best.
Good luck with training - I would be interested to hear how things go with your training low carb (or even perhaps higher carb).
 
Indy51 said:
You could always get yourself some Super Starch - apparently it's all the rage with keto athletes in the State:

http://generationucan.com/super.html
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Thankyou i have had a look at this, the first review i read is here

Well, having participated in multiple Ironman triathlon, 70.3 events, marathons and 1/2marathons, I thought I would try this new "Wunder Carb".
First off, it tastes like someone put sand in your water. Then comes the taste. I got past that. Then about halfway through my work out I was exhausted, and had a gut ache. EVERY TIME I tried it. And I tried it at least a half dozen times. So today, I went back to my GU products. I had no gut issues, had a great "even keel" energy level for over 2 hours, AND I didn't get diarrhea halfway through my workout!

hehe, ill give it a miss, but sounded interesting for a second
 
Bebo321 said:
That's really inspiring! Great you're training for the Berlin Marathon too - how's that going?
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The proper (Higdon) training plan doesn't start until May (the Marathon is at the end of September).

Unfortunately I strained my MC Ligament at the last Oak Hill parkrun of the year (after stupidly deciding to wear new flats), after which I was out for 10 weeks. Just back to running again in the last couple of weeks, and so far my knee is holding out, but I've lost all my aerobic fitness.
 
Indy51 said:
You could always get yourself some Super Starch - apparently it's all the rage with keto athletes in the State:
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My intention is to run the Berlin Marathon on zero carbs. It's a bit of a risk, and I need to see how it works out in training, but see an increasing number of zero or very-low-carb endurance runners as suggested by Volek and Phinney in 'The Art and Science of Low Carb Performance".

I think the trick is to make sure that you are in deep ketosis through the last couple of months. I eat very little carbohydrate (<25g) but I do a pretty bad job of getting high blood ketone levels unless I'm running a lot, probably because of insulin resistance. Hopefully the late stages of the marathon training plan will tip me into "deep purple" territory.

I've invested in a couple of bottles of this: http://prototypenutrition.com/ketoforce.html which I intend to use on the day. Technically it's "juicing", but I figure that it's no different than the carb heads fueling up on pasta. The rumors are that this stuff is what helped Chris Froome win the TdF. I might dabble with some SuperStarch too.
 
Andy12345 said:
wow! thats is scarey, cant wait to hear about it
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Scary and a little dangerous. I had a nasty experience last year when I knocked myself out with a "hypo" during a 10k after 20 miles of racing in a week. I think (and hope) the problem there was that I tried to compensate for all of the racing by eating some carbs, which was enough to knock me out of ketosis but not enough to replenish my liver.

It was basically like "hitting the wall". If you are properly keto adapted, that shouldn't happen.

I don't advise that anyone else tries it.
 
its awesome, ive been in two minds if low carbing is a good idea or not with the marathon, but i suppose i will find out in 2 weeks but what your trying is nuts! i love it! makes we want to try it next time
 
Andy12345 said:
its awesome, ive been in two minds if low carbing is a good idea or not with the marathon, but i suppose i will find out in 2 weeks but what your trying is nuts! i love it! makes we want to try it next time
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What is your fueling plan Andy? Are you doing London?

I honestly think that, if you're running a marathon, you can afford to eat carbohydrates, it wouldn't be too difficult to work out how much you'd expect to burn and just eat enough. You don't need to gorge yourself with pasta, that really is a discredited myth.

To be honest, the main reason that I don't want to eat carbs is that I'm scared of "doing a Radcliffe". I'm so used to running fasted, that the thought of eating refined carbohydrates during a race scares me. Although whatever happens I'll be carrying gels as "Plan B".
 
I think one of the guys who does marathon talk is going no carbs for the Manchester Marathon. I am depleting then going for a carb load for it.

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i just did a 20 mile, i ate my normal yogurt with berries for brekkie, nothing unusual the day before, i ate a bacon roll with a white bread bun 2 hours before the start (brownies were selling them) and i ate a 30g of carb healthy bar thingy at 10 miles, apart from that normal eating and i was fine, yes doing london
 
Mongoose39uk said:
I think one of the guys who does marathon talk is going no carbs for the Manchester Marathon. I am depleting then going for a carb load for it.
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Yes - Tom Williams - he did a 20 mile race with no fuel and no liquid (which is kinda dumb).

Have you read any of the Tim Noakes stuff on low-carb endurance running? He kinda wrote the book on carb loading, now he's turned his back on it.

I'm just going to have to see how my warm up races and long runs go. Having hypoed in a race once before, I don't want to repeat it in the middle of Berlin.
 
Nah not doing much reading. First and last marathon in 30 years. I will get round thats alk I am interested in. Few extra bob for muscular dystrophy research then back to real life. Our lass has got a serious health issue at the mo and buggering off running for hours at a time wouldn't br fair.

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today in the marathon news magazine theres a charity where if you pledge to raise 2k they pay for your flight and accomodation to the new york marathon.....if i mention this to the missus she may well have a baby, i dont want anymore kids but new york sounds sweet for november, i had promised not to do any more marathons
 
I think Danny mentioned these not being parkrun products. . Rather expensive for it. I make personalised t shirts etc. Thats 10 minutes work including packing on a shirt that costs a few quid

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