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<blockquote data-quote="Lamont D" data-source="post: 2561805" data-attributes="member: 85785"><p>I remember that is what the national insurance was for.</p><p>The amount of money given to private firms due to outsourcing and also for staff outsourced or brought in to cover is the wedge of privitisatation.</p><p>The amount of ringfenced tax money has depreciated so much in the last decade.</p><p>for instance if was 100 million in 2009. It is now only 120million, but to maintain the 2009 standard it should be 150million. They aren't exact figures, just to give you an id ea.</p><p>The Tories have cut everything down to the hard minimum and more. Training has become virtually non existent. And so expensive.</p><p>Why, because it is well known that if you are well off, private hospitals and insurance have become affordable due to government handouts , so why should they pay tax for the NHS?</p><p>There are many, many vacancies, deliberately.</p><p>Did you know private hospitals shut over the holidays?</p><p>Did you know private hospitals are given (yes, given new technology) to test.</p><p>Did you know private hospitals refer patients to specialist NHS services and then charge the NHS for the likes of transport, staff, time.</p><p>Did you know that royalty have special services, doctors, nurses, hospitals, clinics, surgeons, dieticians and so on, paid for out of your taxes!</p><p></p><p>The biggest problem is the Tories want an American style health service. But can't get rid of the NHS. There is a class divide in how you get your health care. It's great if you can afford private sector, but the truth is, if you can't you should be grateful for the NHS services you do get.</p><p></p><p>Lib dems, have said for years, a penny on income tax will solve so many problems if it is ringfenced for the NHS.</p><p>The NHS is the best, but it undermined by private greed. And it does seem that the present government really don't care.</p><p>Tax avoidance, loopholes in tax law, tax fraud, non doms, off shore tax fraud, British tax havens, multi nationals tax, would pay for the whole NHS without any private sector. So why don't they do something about that revenue?</p><p></p><p>I have relatives in tax, hospitals, front line and in border agency.</p><p></p><p>Brexit is killing this country, we are paying too much for everything now, if it continues, power cuts, rationing, tax hikes for the workers again will pay for it. We are not even charging for imports. Because we haven't got the infrastructure. That is a lot of money not being collected. All in the name of right wing doctrine.</p><p></p><p>The country is run **** about face!</p><p></p><p>If a Tory opens his mouth, he is lying!</p><p></p><p>Where I live, we know what Tories are! I wish the rest of the country did!</p><p>Over a dozen seats in my area, all Labour!</p><p>Tories left their mark on my area in the seventies, eighties and we are still counting the cost!</p><p>We cannot afford the Tories or the privileged or royalty!</p><p>That is the truth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lamont D, post: 2561805, member: 85785"] I remember that is what the national insurance was for. The amount of money given to private firms due to outsourcing and also for staff outsourced or brought in to cover is the wedge of privitisatation. The amount of ringfenced tax money has depreciated so much in the last decade. for instance if was 100 million in 2009. It is now only 120million, but to maintain the 2009 standard it should be 150million. They aren't exact figures, just to give you an id ea. The Tories have cut everything down to the hard minimum and more. Training has become virtually non existent. And so expensive. Why, because it is well known that if you are well off, private hospitals and insurance have become affordable due to government handouts , so why should they pay tax for the NHS? There are many, many vacancies, deliberately. Did you know private hospitals shut over the holidays? Did you know private hospitals are given (yes, given new technology) to test. Did you know private hospitals refer patients to specialist NHS services and then charge the NHS for the likes of transport, staff, time. Did you know that royalty have special services, doctors, nurses, hospitals, clinics, surgeons, dieticians and so on, paid for out of your taxes! The biggest problem is the Tories want an American style health service. But can't get rid of the NHS. There is a class divide in how you get your health care. It's great if you can afford private sector, but the truth is, if you can't you should be grateful for the NHS services you do get. Lib dems, have said for years, a penny on income tax will solve so many problems if it is ringfenced for the NHS. The NHS is the best, but it undermined by private greed. And it does seem that the present government really don't care. Tax avoidance, loopholes in tax law, tax fraud, non doms, off shore tax fraud, British tax havens, multi nationals tax, would pay for the whole NHS without any private sector. So why don't they do something about that revenue? I have relatives in tax, hospitals, front line and in border agency. Brexit is killing this country, we are paying too much for everything now, if it continues, power cuts, rationing, tax hikes for the workers again will pay for it. We are not even charging for imports. Because we haven't got the infrastructure. That is a lot of money not being collected. All in the name of right wing doctrine. The country is run **** about face! If a Tory opens his mouth, he is lying! Where I live, we know what Tories are! I wish the rest of the country did! Over a dozen seats in my area, all Labour! Tories left their mark on my area in the seventies, eighties and we are still counting the cost! We cannot afford the Tories or the privileged or royalty! That is the truth. [/QUOTE]
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