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Has the headache easied due to having your coffee fix?
I know diet coke still has caffeine in mind.
Headaches could be caffeine withdrawal related rather than decreased carbs and cals?
Has the headache easied due to having your coffee fix?I have one black coffee in the morning no more than about 500ml, I would usually have 1 or 2 during the day but not always, I have no idea what the effect would be on this diet drinking more coffee that is why I am only having the one.
Last night I had a slightly restless night but that is not unusual as I am a full time carer and often don't get to sleep until 1-2am
No more irritable than any other time, and my concentration is no worse than it has been since the stroke (thats another story).
I woke with an annoying headache and that has eased considerably.
Decaf still has caffeine in, but far less than none decaf ones.Bluetit1802 post: 1525699 said:This coffee thing is an example of how different we can all be.
I stopped drinking coffee many years ago, over 30 years, when it was suggested that could be the cause of the headaches I was having. (I never did drink cokes) My headaches disappeared like magic. I now only drink decaff and can honestly say a headache is an extremely rare occurrence for me. So it was the coffee that caused mine. Or a mysterious coincidence.
Decaf still has caffeine in, but far less than none decaf ones.
Chocolate has a similiar affect as a stimulant.
That is amazing - no drugs - superb keep it up.With the talk about coffee curiosity got the better of me so I just took a BG test and it is 6.6 I literally finished my coffee 30 minutes ago. I wonder if I could drink more black coffee during the course of the day without any adverse effects on the diet.
Calorie wise its nothing but I wonder if the carbs would make a great difference.
6.6 <<<< I need to let that sink in !!!!
Great progress, you are getting your BG levels under control faster then most of us booked our nurse appointment.It took me many weeks to see levels as low as yours doing classic LCHF.
I assume the roasted veg contains below ground veg, if so try using above ground veg as the carbs are lower, maybe even doing some sty fried green veg on some days. You can add calories with olive oil and/or butter if the green veg have two low calories to reach your target.
I am not changing my meds until I see my bloods hopefully come down. I thought I can reduce the meds once much lower. Your stats are impressive, well done.I think I was diagnosed in 2014, my vision had deteriorated very quickly, literally over a couple of days and initially I thought I had, had another stroke because the blurring of my vision was pretty much the same as that following the stroke.
Over the following few days I was getting up all through the night needing to pee and drink. Unaware I had diabetes I was drinking anything and everything, milk, fruit juice, soda and occasionally water. My voice had changed too, and it has continued to change every now and then, I have never been able to explain it. It is as if my vocal chords have been altered and it only tends to last a couple of days or so then goes, and of course it is always when my blood sugar is elevated.
Anyhow over the course of a couple of weeks the need to pee through the night and the uncontrollable thirst got worse, I had not noticed myself but I had started to lose weight even though I was eating as normal. I was with my daughter one day and she insisted I go with her to the hospital and get checked out.
I saw the tri-age nurse who did a blood test, “You must be feeling quite unwell your blood sugar is sky high” She had also said it was 960, which meant absolutely nothing to me but it got me seen by the Doctor pretty quick. So that was it, I was now diabetic.
I was given some advice on do’s and don’ts and prescribed Metformin 1 x twice a day after a while this was increased to 2 x twice a day and my blood sugar was coming down, but not as the nurse would have liked so I was prescribed Gliclazide at first ½ a tablet twice a day.
After my second or third long range blood test in 2015 my long range blood sugar was down to 48.
I was told I had done well to get such high numbers down so quick and there was a concern that I might get to low so the Gliclazide was taken away.
That’s where it all went pear shaped, my next long range blood was over 180. I was frustrated to put it mildly, I was put back on the Gliclazide which over the following few months was doubled to 2 a day and then again to 4 a day. I was also given Sitagliptin.
My last 2 long range blood tests have come back at 120 and 102. My past couple of visit’s the nurse has mentioned injecting, I am not keen.
I hope I can turn my frustration to determination.
August 1st 2017
Today I am starting the Newcastle diet, well as close as I can get to it since the food supplements used in the original study are not available in the UK without a prescription.
I plan on using Heinz soups and to also use the vegetables suggested in the Newcastle trial.
I may try some of the other meal supplements that are available but the nutritional values compared to Heinz soups do not seem greatly different. My one luxury will be black coffee in the mornings.
After dinner yesterday I took my last lot of diabetes medicine. I was taking 9 tablets a day just for my type 2 diabetes which consisted of 4 x 500mg Metformin, 4 x 80mg Gliclazide and 1 x 100mg Sitagliptin.
On top of those I also take 75mg Clopidogrel and 40mg Simvastatin, I also take up to 8 x 50mg Tramadol when I need to for pain.
The Clopidogrel I was prescribed following a stroke in 2012 and the Statin I was prescribed a fair while before that for Cholesterol. I will continue to take both of these daily along with a multivitamin tablet. I have Centrum Advance 50+ food supplement multivitamin/multimineral tablets, (Complete from A to Zinc) I may change these if I find something better or more suitable.
I have lost 20 kilos over the past 2 years from 104 KG to 84 KG however this has not translated into low BG numbers. I am 6’3” 50 years old.
My last long range blood test was 102 my next one will be at the start of November.
My blood this morning after 12 hours fasting was 17.8
My blood at 3.30pm today was 13.4 just before my first meal which was Tomato Soup (134 calories), apparently no added sugar and reduced salt. I shall take readings and keep a note of my food intake on this thread as regularly as possible.
I bought myself a soup maker.... 10 mins prep and 20 mins later delicious soup and countable carbs!! Best investment ever!Oh dear - picking up the wrong thing is so easily done - my husband once came home with eight cans of Lidl meatballs instead of baked beans because they were in the wrong place on the shelf.
Its great that your BG is trending downwards - its lovely to see those numbers get lower - makes the rumbling tummy worthwhile.
Have you thought about making your own soup? That way you can control the carb content.
I am not changing my meds until I see my bloods hopefully come down. I thought I can reduce the meds once much lower. Your stats are impressive, well done.
I am planning to use low carb diet to maintain and hopefully control the T2 and bloods.
I am watching with interest as we have similar start points although I am older (60 just)
Yesterday I just, by a whisker remained in single figures. My fasting BG was 6.5
Before my midday meal 6.1 and 2 hours after 9.9, however before my evening meal my BG had dropped to 5.5 and 2 hours after was 9.1 just before bed 6.9
Day 6:
I had extra black coffee yesterday and no headache this morning, but to be fair I think the headache could just of been a result of dropping from eating like a pig to 600 calories which is one of the side effects the NC diet warns of.
I would say I am at about 3 - 3.5 liters of fluids now
I woke with the fruity, nail polish remover breath of ketosis. Who would ever have thought you could feel good about breath like a Hyena. Since this is a frank record I should also mention I have not had to do a number 2 since Day 1, I do not feel like I need to and do not feel constipated or uncomfortable in anyway but I am usually regular.
My fasting BG 6.3 <<< the drops are less dramatic now but nonetheless they are drops, my fasting BG over the past 6 days looks like this.
Day 1 - 17.8
Day 2 - 11.1
Day 3 - 8.6
Day 4 - 7.8
Day 5 - 6.5
Day 6 - 6.3
Today is the first day that my first BG of the day was lower than my last BG of the night before.
All of my lowest daily readings have been before my evening meal with day 4 and 5 both being 5.5
My diet has remained unchanged since the start. Black coffee, no breakfast, soup for midday meal and roasted veg for evening meal. The NC diet calls for 800 calories but I have managed pretty well ranging from approx 350 to a little over 600, but I should mention these values are from printed labels and internet figures for the calorie values of the veg, additional veg is how I have increased the calories over the past 2 days and that may account for rises in my BG from 5.5 on both days to 9.4 and 9.1 respectively 2 hours after my evening meal.
I see my DN tomorrow afternoon, interested to see how my BP and weight has done, and the look on her face when she does the finger prick test.
You are doing amazingly. I hope those figures have put a massive grin on your face.
Do you think it is good to go as low as 350 - or even 600? Is that sustainable over 8 weeks?
I think I read somewhere that people can fast for quite a long while but I don't think I could do 600 calories for to long.
Anyway - you are doing really well and look like you know exactly what you are doing - as I say keep going the FB 5's are coming by the looks of things!
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