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Please educate me on fats!

I have not used MyFitnessPal but those figures seem very strange. As has been said, the normal RDA for protein is between 1g andc1.5g per kg body weight. Higher intake increases the risk of damage to the kidneys.

I note that the fat results do not tally either. The actual is not reflected in the sum of the component parts.
 
I believe pate de foie gras involves over feeding geese with fat to force a fatty liver. The same thing occurs with mice and rat research studies, where there is enforced overfeeding of inappropriate food in proportions to create a desired outcome, but this is often ignored in the conclusions that the method may be inducing a confounding bias.
 
No, they are not fed much fat, just a small amount to lubricate the grain, they are mainly force fed grains. Just like pigs are fed high carbs to fatten them up.
 

On the free version goal setting is a bit limited, you have to set a target calorie amount then divide protein, carbs and fat by a % number that equates to 100%.

The other problem is if you do exercise it automatically adjusts some of the goals for the day. I haven't figured out how to turn that off so I don't look at the goals just the actual numbers. Don't know why on my app the fat totals didn't add up, it shows slightly differently on the web version that does tally.

So at 85kg, I guess the protein target would be in the region of 85-100 g?
 
I have not read every word of this very long article but I would certainly query the methodology of the experimentation. Comparisons between infusing known quantities of fatty acids directly into the blood stream and ingesting naturally occurring lipids which are synergistically linked to many other compounds are just not valid.
 
n=1 again but... I DID get fat on a Low fat diet and only started to lose weight when I decided to do the opposite of what I had done for 25+ years.

It doesn't matter how many times I hear that low fat is better for you, my body simply does not agree.

Then there's the month long high fat low carb experiment that my hubby did. I notice the folk who support low fat are ignoring my post about that. Another inconvenient truth?
 
I too struggled with the idea of eating more (healthy) fat having been raised on the low-fat mantra. However, fat gives satiety to meals and makes eating low carbohydrate doable in the long term. This approach has enabled me to maintain a constant weight and blood glucose levels for the last 7 years. Adjusting to the idea that cheese and full fat plain yoghurt are not just ok but actually desirable had taken some effort. As I also wanted to increase natural sources of calcium in my diet this change has had benefits all round.
 
Me too.
 
AHA Recommendation
The American Heart Association recommends aiming for a dietary pattern that achieves 5% to 6% of calories from saturated fat.

For example, if you need about 2,000 calories a day, no more than 120 of them should come from saturated fat.

That’s about 13 grams of saturated fat per day.

There’s a lot of conflicting information about saturated fats. Should I eat them or not?
The American Heart Association recommends limiting saturated fats – which are found in butter, cheese, red meat and other animal-based foods, and tropical oils. Decades of sound science has proven it can raise your “bad” cholesterol and put you at higher risk for heart disease.

When you hear about the latest “diet of the day” or a new or odd-sounding theory about food, consider the source. The American Heart Association makes dietary recommendations only after carefully considering the latest scientific evidence.

https://www.heart.org/en/healthy-living/healthy-eating/eat-smart/fats/saturated-fats
 
Thinking about this a bit more, I suggest you have a look at cholesterol. Particularly if the recommended cholesterol levels are a good idea, what cholesterol does, good and bad cholesterol, how our bodies make and use cholesterol, and different types of LDL cholesterol.

I suggest this as most of the narrative around eating fats is about cholesterol levels, so knowing about cholesterol will help with informed decision making.

There are a number of threads in here on the subject, with lots of links to research and discussion about the way research was done and the scientific validity of some conclusions.

I am very much in favour of informed choices and decisions.
 

Guessing the pumpkin and chestnut soup gave most of the carbs?
That aside looks pretty good.
Are you measuring your blood glucose too?
 
bulkbiker said:
Guessing the pumpkin and chestnut soup gave most of the carbs?
That aside looks pretty good.
Are you measuring your blood glucose too?
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The casserole had some rice but a smallish amount.

I haven't been measuring BG but I've just been given a Wavesense Jazz meter. The testing strips are a few years out of date (are they unusable now?). I've ordered some more from Amazon, I should get them tomorrow.
 
I don't know too much about all the scientific background, as it's not a subject which greatly interests me much. But I think the traditional advice of eating low fat, and especially saturated fat is based on the belief it will mess up your cholesterol levels.
My 'knowledge' doesn't go much further than a vague notion that HDL is the good one and LDL is the bad one.

So here's what changing my diet to less carbs, more fat (including plenty of saturated fats) did to my numbers between diagnosis 5 years ago and my latest blood draw last month, without medication for cholesterol:

LDL went from 3.8 to 2.1
HDL went from 1.04 to 1.50
triglycerides went from 5.1 to 1.22
cholesterol/HDL ratio from 6.1 to 2.6
total cholesterol from 7.0 to 3.9

I'm only one person and not a substitute for a large study, but if eating more fats of all kinds is bad for me, it clearly isn't because of my lipids.
 

I'd ditch out of date strips as they can often give incorrect readings.
Can I ask how much they were as the cost of monitoring is in the strips and there are some reasonably price test machines out the that are relatively inexpensive to run.

As for food the rice probably won't have helped your blood sugar either.
 
bulkbiker said:
I'd ditch out of date strips as they can often give incorrect readings.
Can I ask how much they were as the cost of monitoring is in the strips and there are some reasonably price test machines out the that are relatively inexpensive to run.
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They were 18£ on Amazon. I saw them a lot cheaper else where (around £12) but Amazon gave me next-day (Sunday) delivery for that.
 
Beating-My-Betes said:
It's because people listen to the advice given on these forums (which really only comes from one view-point) that I do contest it.
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But when that advice works most people would be happy to try it you see.

We have hundreds (probably thousands) of people who have succeeded with LCHF.

When you are happy to share your results and come back having put your T2 into remission with your "mastering diabetes" protocol you will be listened too as well (assuming it works of course).

You seem very reluctant to put your theories into practise and I do have to wonder why that is.

@Tannith has at least done the ND and shares some results... we can see over time how well it goes for her.
 
Tannith has not done the ND. She has done 1000 calorie low fat diets. She is open about being a supporter of ND diet without having chosen to do it herself. I believe she calls her diet the 'wimps' version in her signature.
 
bulkbiker said:
Ah ok.. I use a Tee2 meter strips are £10 for 50 and you can usually get the meter for free from here

https://shop.spirit-health.co.uk/co...py-of-tee2-test-strips?variant=19264017367097
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Thanks for the tip. I was given the meter so it didn't cost me anything. I'll burn through these 50 tests and see how cheap I can get the strips Vs other meters. At this stage I just want to get a feel for my tolerance levels, my HbA1c this month was 41 so I'm doing alright but I've stopped the Metformin and want to push that down into the 30s.
 
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