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Diagnosed with type 2 diabetes four months ago. Have changed my diet and trying to lose weight, but not too successfully. After last check-up was put on Metformin. I feel a bit of a fraud, because apart from running to the loo 3 or four times a night I dont seem to have any other symtoms. Have had the retinal scan (normal) and advice about diet and looking after my feet. I"ve also started regular exercise (daily walks). What happens next? I"m 66 years young!
 
Hi type 2 torbay and welcome to the forum :) When you take your metformin, take it during a meal, not before or after and this may resolve your loo problems. If not, there is an SR or ER version - slow/extended release - which may be kinder on your stomach which you could ask for. They don't start you on it as it is more expensive. No need to put up with sleepless nights!

You sound like you are beginning to look after yourself well. I think this information may be useful to you. We give it to new members to help them get started on their diabetes care. If you have any questions, please ask, as there is always someone here who will have an answer for you.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Well feeling a fraud is better than feeling ill! As for what happens next, well you continue your walks cut back on bread (that's biggest healthy living diet tip I have-and I don't do detailed diet advice as i'm pig ignorant!) and find your trousers start falling down with the weight loss that follows.
 
Hi Type 2 Torbay

And a welcome from me to our Forum.

You have had Daisy's new member advice and Gappy's diet tip. All I want to offer you is to remember that the management of your diabetes should be a partnership between you and your healthcare professionals and your input into that is important - the Government's guidance says so!! To make that work, you need to get as much knowledge as you can under your belt. There are many places to get that knowledge and I hope that you find that this forum is one of them.

Let us know how you get on - friendship and support are also in abundant supply here.

Regards

Doug
 
glucose testing

Sorry I have"nt replied sooner, but thank you daisy1,gappy and doug. Your welcome to this forum was just what I needed, so thank you for the welcome and the advice. Question- should someone at my surgery have given me information on testing my glucose level? I don"t have any idea on what to do.
Help please.
P.S. My name is brian.

Regards to all.
 
Hi Brian, and welcome.

Just to say that you don't have to have any symptoms to have diabetes. I have no symptoms at all (not even running to the loo! :lol: ), but I am definitely Type 2. I take Metformin to help insulin resistance, and follow a restricted carbohydrate diet which seems to suit me.

Daisy has already posted the basic (very good!) advice for you earlier on in this thread. Have a good read around the various threads on here, and don't be afraid to ask any questions - we've all been there, and we're here to help.

Testing - a blood glucose monitor (or meter) is the basic kit. These come with a finger-pricking device, and a plug-in strip that you push into the ensuing drop of blood until the machine gives you your readings. Some of us get these on prescription from our GPs, some don't. They are pretty well essential in the early stages after being diagnosed, so push hard to get a kit from your GP. You can buy one, if all else fails, but why should you?

Basically, if you test just before you eat, and then 2 hours after your meal, the meter will tell you how different foods affect your blood glucose levels (BGs), and you can use it as a tool to work out what foods you can eat. It's mostly refined carbohydrates that push up our blood sugars, and you need to learn which ones you can eat, and in what quantities, to get your readings as stable as possible within the suggested range. Those figures are in Daisy's post.

For example, I try to stick to under 50g of carbohydrate a day (using a carb counter book to help me work it out). Other people can handle 150g of carb per day. We're all different! which is a saying you'll get used to on here! :lol:

You won't get the hang of it in the next 24 hours, but don't worry, you'll get there, and we're all here to help. The main thing is, don't panic! Did your doctor tell you the figures that made him/her diagnose you? You should ask for all the information from your blood tests to give you something to work from. If anyone objects, say you want to be pro-active in handling your condition. I get a print-out of all my blood test results as a matter of course - now :wink:

Don't worry - you're among friends!

Viv 8)
 
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