Post-Meal reading spikes

[Rick1318]

Hey guys, I was diagnosed as T2 2.5 weeks ago with bg of 17. Immediately I cut most carbs and started exercise. 2 weeks later my sugars have dropped to 4.5-10. This is a huge range and it varies by the time of day. I just recently learned about post-prandial testing and its importance. This morning I was at 8.5. After eating breakfast (2 eggs, bacon and unsweetened almond milk), my bg spiked to 10.7. This was really confusing as there was basically no carbs/sugar in my meal. I couldn't measure before lunch because I was at work, but 30 min after lunch I was at 7.7. At home before dinner I was 6.5. 30 min after dinner (pan fried chicken breast with olive oil + cajun spice, stew tofu + cauliflower + spinach + egg) I spiked up to 8.4 again. 2 hours after I am at 8.7. After going to the gym and jogging for 30 min I go down to 4.5-5. Then next morning back to 8 again.

I realise the morning highs is caused by something called the Dawn Phenomenon..not sure what to do about this but hopefully this reading goes down in the future. My concern is, why do my sugars spike after meals if they barely had any carbs in them? Maybe its still too early to know for sure? Thanks in advance for all the help.

 

[Resurgam]

I fond that a small amount of carbs with breakfast means that my blood glucose doesn't rise so high in the mornings.
At first I was eating no carbs and getting fairly high readings 2 hours after, but adding just a few grams of carb made a difference - a small tomato is enough to do the trick.
You should see that the same meal causes less increase in BG after a few more weeks, with any luck, that is.

 

[Rick1318]

I fond that a small amount of carbs with breakfast means that my blood glucose doesn't rise so high in the mornings.
At first I was eating no carbs and getting fairly high readings 2 hours after, but adding just a few grams of carb made a difference - a small tomato is enough to do the trick.
You should see that the same meal causes less increase in BG after a few more weeks, with any luck, that is.

Thanks Resurgam. Just curious you say it took you 5 months to reach stable bg levels. I know it varies by individual but what was your journey like on a high level? Did it go down incrementally every couple weeks? Did your fasting readings come down as well? Why do you think it takes the body months to stablize? Was it because you finally found the right combination of carbs/fat/protein? Or did you find the right combo long time ago and it just takes the body a long time to adjust? Sorry in advance for all the questions haha

 

[Resurgam]

Thanks Resurgam. Just curious you say it took you 5 months to reach stable bg levels. I know it varies by individual but what was your journey like on a high level? Did it go down incrementally every couple weeks? Did your fasting readings come down as well? Why do you think it takes the body months to stablize? Was it because you finally found the right combination of carbs/fat/protein? Or did you find the right combo long time ago and it just takes the body a long time to adjust? Sorry in advance for all the questions haha

Probably 'yes' to most things you asked.
My levels dropped and became stable for some weeks, then began to swing through a greater range, then the higher numbers began to reduce and my old friend the mid afternoon sag returned - not seen that since my teens and twenties.
Moving my meals further apart, and including carbs in the morning seems to give me more stable blood glucose, but I have more energy if I eat protein only breakfast quite early and then a small lunch and dinner with carbs - but I have higher blood glucose levels as a result.
I was eating carbs for several years - keeping away from all those dreadful fats and oils my doctor thought so dangerous so I gave myself a year to revert back to non diabetic levels. My fasting level is about 6.5 - but I have stopped testing on a regular basis due to the cost. I don't think that a living metabolism is ever stable, reactions to what I eat are never identical, but they are a lot better than they were six months ago.

 

[Rick1318]

Thanks so much. I'm experiencing something very similar at the moment too. My readings spiked by 2 mmol/l this morning after eating 2 eggs and bacon. I really hope it's not the eggs causing this because I love them! My theory is that since I've recently deprived my body of carbs when it was so used to burning carbs for years, it's now releasing a lot of cortisol which promotes gluconeogensis that turns the egg protein into glucose. Does this make sense to you? I think I should give my body some time to get used to creating energy in different ways. Maybe meditation would help reduce cortisol too. Would you consider a 2mmol/l spike large after a meal?

 

[Kristin251]

Thanks so much. I'm experiencing something very similar at the moment too. My readings spiked by 2 mmol/l this morning after eating 2 eggs and bacon. I really hope it's not the eggs causing this because I love them! My theory is that since I've recently deprived my body of carbs when it was so used to burning carbs for years, it's now releasing a lot of cortisol which promotes gluconeogensis that turns the egg protein into glucose. Does this make sense to you? I think I should give my body some time to get used to creating energy in different ways. Maybe meditation would help reduce cortisol too. Would you consider a 2mmol/l spike large after a meal?

I can't eat protein in the morning or I spike. I need to eat as fasting makes it worse so I eat an small fatty breakfast. Half an avocado with celery. I still go up but much less.
I gluconeogenisis very fast as I am vlc and I have to watch my protein just as much as my carbs. I am type 1 now and have to take insulin for half my protein as if it were carbs. If I eat 21 g of protein i take insulin as if it were 10 carbs.
We are most IR in the morning so no protein for me then but it doesn't seem to effect a lot of type 2's although it did me.

You can have your eggs and bacon later in the day!!! I love them any time and any way I can get them. I often have hard boiled with mayo for lunch or dinner. We always have hard boiled in our refrigerator