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ShaunL

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Hello,

I'm new to the whole forum thing so hope I'm going about this in an acceptable fashion.

My story is quite straight forward, I have been getting upper stomach pain for some time and had various things shoved down my throat and ultimately got diagnosed with duodenitis and tried meds...no good... still had the pain was feeling tired all the time, getting headaches and urinating a lot so got bloods done. Cut a long stroy short my fasting blood glucose is 6.3 - I'm slim, 45, relatively fit with no family history of diabetes. The Doc says get it rechecked in 12months

I was wondering:
1. If anyone else had experienced a similar set of symptoms?
2. What advice to bring the ol' blooods down?

I really appreciate any feedback

all best

Shaun
 
Hi Shaun sorry to hear of your painful stomach problems.. I had upper abdominal pain, severe at times, before I was diagnosed with Coeliac disease . Did you actually have an Endoscopy? as I had that procedure with a biopsy taken.
I hope you can get a proper diagnosis soon and the correct medical treatment to help with the pain:inpain:. Take care
 
ShaunL said:
Hello,

I'm new to the whole forum thing so hope I'm going about this in an acceptable fashion.

My story is quite straight forward, I have been getting upper stomach pain for some time and had various things shoved down my throat and ultimately got diagnosed with duodenitis and tried meds...no good... still had the pain was feeling tired all the time, getting headaches and urinating a lot so got bloods done. Cut a long stroy short my fasting blood glucose is 6.3 - I'm slim, 45, relatively fit with no family history of diabetes. The Doc says get it rechecked in 12months

I was wondering:
1. If anyone else had experienced a similar set of symptoms?
2. What advice to bring the ol' blooods down?

I really appreciate any feedback

all best

Shaun
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Hi Shaun,

I am afraid I don't know what may cause the stomach problems. I hope it can be sorted out for you.

As for bringing the blood sugar levels down, I would advise you to read as much in this forum as you can. I am prediabetic as well and have managed to control them (i.e. bring them back to a normal range) by cutting out starchy and refined carbohydrate foods (no bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, and obviously no sweets, cakes, biscuits).

I also would suggest you buy yourself a meter and check your blood yourself. Often doctors advise to come back in a few months, or a year, and in the meantime your prediabetes may just get worse. Unless you know what food raises your blood sugar, you cannot do anything about it.

Amazon sells the Codefree meter, which will be cheapest for test strips. Check yourself in the morning when you get up (before you eat or drink anything) and then check after you eat (one and two hours afterwards). You will soon get the hang of it and see what your average readings are.

Good luck and tell us how you get on.
 
I don't understand pre diabetic.
You can't have pre flu or pre asthma ... can you?
How can you have something before you have it?
I don't get it.
 
Before being diagnosed with Type 2, I had all sorts of upper abdominal pain caused by small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, reflux and IBS-type symptoms. I was on acid blocking medications for many years for the reflux. I found eliminating wheat and other grains from my diet helped to solve a lot of my issues. I also developed gastritis after taking metformin. Now I'm free of drugs and my upper GI issues are all resolved. I really think wheat causes a huge amount of problems for many people without them being aware of it. It also tends to spike a lot of people's blood glucose higher than almost any other food. My suggestion would be to eliminate all grains for a month and see if your symptoms improve. It will probably also help lower your BG.
 
Hello, I agree that testing your blood sugar is an important step, as keeping the bs level down is best and it helps to delay the full onset of T2, although lots of going to the loo, is a sign that things are moving on. Your gp, says come back in a year, too long to wait, get an appointment with the practice/dibetic nurse, who will give you plenty of information about diabetes, and if they will give you a BS testing meter, to keep a check on your levels, if offered take it.
I think it is really bad that diabetics have to buy their own testing meters, strips and lancets, a lot of diabetics get then free and the strips and lancets free on prescription.
For Jack the lad, pre-diabetes is a warning that the body is not using insulin properly and medical intervention with drugs is something that will occur in time. By using good diet and lifestyle changes you have a chance to hold off the condition for a while longer. Let us know how you are getting on, wellttfn
 
JACKTHELAD said:
I don't understand pre diabetic.
You can't have pre flu or pre asthma ... can you?
How can you have something before you have it?
I don't get it.
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Jack, diabetes is something that develops over time, it can take 10 years or more from the first signs of your cells becoming insulin resistant to becoming diabetic. Think of it, as for example the process of getting drunk.... You drink one glass of wine and feel a light tingling and light-headedness... if you stop after one glass nothing else happens and you go back to your sober state... if you drink another glass you start to feel a little more of the effects, but you can still stop yourself from getting drunk. If you continue with glass after glass you may end up completely drunk and it's too late to stop the effects of lying in a heap on the floor and unable to stand.

Perhaps a poor choice of example.. It's been a few decades since I was last drunk, but I think you see what I mean.

Prediabetes is the first glass of wine. If caught early and if you change your way of eating/living you can hold diabetes at bay, often for many years (or if caught early enough, for decades). Some believe you can reverse prediabetes.

If I were you, I'd treat your prediabetes as though it was more severe than it may be and change what I eat. I was in denial of my own condition for a few years and my blood sugar slowly rose. In April I decided enough was enough and I changed my diet. No more bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, no more sweets, cake biscuits. I have managed to bring my fasting blood sugar readings (first thing in the morning) down from an average of 6.22 to 5.28 within a few weeks. Now it's well within the normal range, but I am sure that if I were to go back to eating as I did before, it'll rise again.

Get yourself as well informed as possible and then take action. What prompted me to act was the suggestion to google foot amputations as direct result of diabetes complications. I do not want that.

It's early days yet for you, Jack..... You do not need to go into a panic about what you eat yesterday (remember, it's a slow progression), but change now and you will see the benefit.

Good luck.
 
Thank you all, for your expert replies! This all really usefull to me I will be absorbing all your advice....

I find myself somewhat confused on the Carb front (I'm new to this bloods last week)- I am definately not looking to loose any more weight, so have cut out white rice, white pasta, white Bread, cakes and sweets and any sugary drinks, but I find I still need to eat carbs fairly regularly so have gone for brown rice, whole meal pasta and pitta bread if taking carbs...does this sound like the right direction?

Also breakfast is tricky, I have a little girl and my priority is to get her ready for school etc, I would struggle knocking an eloborate breakfast up for myself - any thoughts?
 
ShaunL said:
Thank you all, for your expert replies! This all really usefull to me I will be absorbing all your advice....

I find myself somewhat confused on the Carb front (I'm new to this bloods last week)- I am definately not looking to loose any more weight, so have cut out white rice, white pasta, white Bread, cakes and sweets and any sugary drinks, but I find I still need to eat carbs fairly regularly so have gone for brown rice, whole meal pasta and pitta bread if taking carbs...does this sound like the right direction?

Also breakfast is tricky, I have a little girl and my priority is to get her ready for school etc, I would struggle knocking an eloborate breakfast up for myself - any thoughts?
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You will need to check your blood sugar levels before a meal, one and two hours afterwards to see what you can eat safely. I would suggest that even whole meal bread/pasta/rice would raise it. Even though it's considered healthy, it's usually not good for us.

For breakfast, try yogurt with blueberries. Quark is fine for me, add a little single cream to it, and a bit of desiccated coconut and it's delicious. Scrambled eggs and bacon are great. You need to try out various things and see how they affect you.
 
Hi, mine isn't an expert reply because I don't know anything about your particular problems coupled with diabetes. So I'm just saying welcome to the forum.:)

My own breakfasts are usually leftover veg fried in lard or olive oil, or fried bacon with or without tomatoes. I'm not very imaginative with food but I am a very fussy eater.
 
Gudrun said:
Jack, diabetes is something that develops over time, it can take 10 years or more from the first signs of your cells becoming insulin resistant to becoming diabetic. Think of it, as for example the process of getting drunk.... You drink one glass of wine and feel a light tingling and light-headedness... if you stop after one glass nothing else happens and you go back to your sober state... if you drink another glass you start to feel a little more of the effects, but you can still stop yourself from getting drunk. If you continue with glass after glass you may end up completely drunk and it's too late to stop the effects of lying in a heap on the floor and unable to stand.

Perhaps a poor choice of example.. It's been a few decades since I was last drunk, but I think you see what I mean.

Prediabetes is the first glass of wine. If caught early and if you change your way of eating/living you can hold diabetes at bay, often for many years (or if caught early enough, for decades). Some believe you can reverse prediabetes.

If I were you, I'd treat your prediabetes as though it was more severe than it may be and change what I eat. I was in denial of my own condition for a few years and my blood sugar slowly rose. In April I decided enough was enough and I changed my diet. No more bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, no more sweets, cake biscuits. I have managed to bring my fasting blood sugar readings (first thing in the morning) down from an average of 6.22 to 5.28 within a few weeks. Now it's well within the normal range, but I am sure that if I were to go back to eating as I did before, it'll rise again.

Get yourself as well informed as possible and then take action. What prompted me to act was the suggestion to google foot amputations as direct result of diabetes complications. I do not want that.

It's early days yet for you, Jack..... You do not need to go into a panic about what you eat yesterday (remember, it's a slow progression), but change now and you will see the benefit.

Good luck.
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No no I'm not pre or post I'm well and truly in the thick of it but thank you for your very clear description.
I just kept hearing pre and post diabetic and I was a little lost.
Thank you.
 
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