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Pre-diabetic or diabetic??

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Hi all, some info and opinions would be great, I have booked a doctors appointment but it's in 2 weeks so trying to do a bit of research beforehand. A bit of background- I was told I was prediabetic aged 17 after a GTT and nothing more said, no advise given, so being 17 I just carried on my life and forgot about it! Fast forward 10 years and I had Gestational Diabetes last year which resolved after the birth, my consultant at the time wanted me to be tested for MODY as diabetes is rife in my family but I had severe health issues after the birth (massive blood clot and p.e) that distracted me from getting the test.

Anyway, yesterday I woke up feeling exhausted, blurred vision and thirsty so decided to test my sugars as I still have my monitor. Morning Fasting was 7.4 so I kept track for the rest of the day as follows:

1 hour post breakfast: 8.5
2 hour post breakfast 5.7

1 hour after lunch 7.9
2 hours after lunch 9.1

Before dinner 8.3
1 hour after dinner 7.1
2 hours after dinner 12.8


Are these prediabetic numbers ? Or diabetic?

Confusingly today my numbers have been a little better so far

Fasting 5.6
1 hour after breakfast 8.7
2 hours after breakfast 6.4
1 hour after lunch 7.3
2 hours after lunch 7.7


Any insight would be great!

Thanks
 
If I were you I'd assume I've got some insulin resistance and change my diet (carbs are the key - they increase blood glucose levels, fat doesn't and protein usually doesn't). Normal blood glucose levels should be a lot lower than what you're getting after 2 hours.

Since you have a meter, you might find this approach works: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045524.php

Also, you might just want to read the whole site: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/index.php

@daisy1 will provide more info.
 
To start with, how old is your meter and are your test strips in date?

We can't diagnose you because we are not doctors, and also have no idea what you ate and drank before your tests nor what your levels were before you ate.

I know this isn't very helpful but if you look on the main website for blood sugar levels you will see what thr NHS says. Sorry I can't give you the link on this phone. Maybe someone else can.
 
Thanks to everyone! I am seriously not looking for a diagnosis, I know only a doctor can do this. I am merely curious as to at what point you cross over from being in the pre-diabetic range to the diabetic range. The links were very helpful thanks! Gestational diabetes had a lot stricter targets than normal diabetes so asking the general diabetic public seemed the best option. Being impatient for my appointment got the better of me! My meter is a year old and QC test was good. My strips are in date. I ate usual foods, not particularly low carb but not junk food. The 12.8 reading for example was after vegetable soup, obviously white potatoes are evil. I thankfully learnt a lot about low carb dieting with my GD and astounded my diabetes team so am confident I should be able to get it under control. Thanks!
 
Usually diabetes is diagnosed with a proper blood test...not finger prick....at a BG level of over 7
 
Welcome to the forum. It sounds like you have things under control and know what to do. Good luck with your appointment.
 
@Marniegirl1989

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 220,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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