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<blockquote data-quote="ianf0ster" data-source="post: 2121367" data-attributes="member: 506169"><p>Hi,</p><p> You seem to be a little confused , which is perfectly normal at first.</p><p><strong>This Forum is one of the few places where you can get real information backed by real personal experience from fellow diabetes and pre-diabetes sufferers who are not trying to sell you something.</strong> So congratulations for finding us.</p><p></p><p>To directly answer your questions:</p><p>1. The only 'safe' Blood Glucose range for pre-diabetes' is the normal range i.e . an HBA1c of under 42.</p><p>1.A. Pre-diabetes is still diabetes, but not bad enough for a doctor to prescribe medication yet. Most GPs trained more than 5 years ago would confidently wager their car (but perhaps not their house) that your pre-diabetes will progress into full diabetes.</p><p>So 'pre-diabetes' is still diabetes!</p><p></p><p>2. Levels, different countries use different measuring systems and occasionally set/re-set) different levels. The current generally accepted upper level Hba1c for the normal range is 42 - but many in here aim for under 40.</p><p></p><p>3. You are probably getting confused between Sugars and Carbs. Their is a distinction between the two for normal healthy people. But for almost all Type 2 diabetics a carb is exactly the same as a sugar - all that changes is the time taken for it to be converted into Sugar in the bloodstream (Blood Glucose).</p><p>So forget, until proven different for you (with a BG meter), all this talk about Good/Healthy carbs and the distinction between Low GI and High GI foods. We are all different in our tolerance of Carbs, but all Type 2 diabetics have a certain degree of intolerance to carbs - they are (mostly) like a poison to us.</p><p></p><p>Having said all that we are all different, so some type 2 diabetics may be able to eat a banana (or half a banana) with something high in fat like double cream and still not suffer a spike in Blood Glucose - but unfortunately those are very few indeed. </p><p></p><p>So to put it in the starkest terms:</p><p>1. Government health guidelines - such as 'healthy carbs' and '5 a day' at the very least make some people very ill (perhaps even cause amputation, blindness and death).</p><p>2. Conventional medical treatment for type 2 diabetes actually makes the condition worse!</p><p>3. You can't trust most dieticians, doctors and other 'Healthcare Professionals' - even those who specialise in diabetes!</p><p>4. You must be sceptical and yet open minded. If a BG meter backs up what somebody says - then it may well be true - if it doesn't -well then it is more likely to be false, at least for you!</p><p></p><p>On a personal note, I have found a Low Carb High Fat lifestyle has been beneficial for me both in terms of controlling my BG and also in terms of losing weight without going hungry!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ianf0ster, post: 2121367, member: 506169"] Hi, You seem to be a little confused , which is perfectly normal at first. [B]This Forum is one of the few places where you can get real information backed by real personal experience from fellow diabetes and pre-diabetes sufferers who are not trying to sell you something.[/B] So congratulations for finding us. To directly answer your questions: 1. The only 'safe' Blood Glucose range for pre-diabetes' is the normal range i.e . an HBA1c of under 42. 1.A. Pre-diabetes is still diabetes, but not bad enough for a doctor to prescribe medication yet. Most GPs trained more than 5 years ago would confidently wager their car (but perhaps not their house) that your pre-diabetes will progress into full diabetes. So 'pre-diabetes' is still diabetes! 2. Levels, different countries use different measuring systems and occasionally set/re-set) different levels. The current generally accepted upper level Hba1c for the normal range is 42 - but many in here aim for under 40. 3. You are probably getting confused between Sugars and Carbs. Their is a distinction between the two for normal healthy people. But for almost all Type 2 diabetics a carb is exactly the same as a sugar - all that changes is the time taken for it to be converted into Sugar in the bloodstream (Blood Glucose). So forget, until proven different for you (with a BG meter), all this talk about Good/Healthy carbs and the distinction between Low GI and High GI foods. We are all different in our tolerance of Carbs, but all Type 2 diabetics have a certain degree of intolerance to carbs - they are (mostly) like a poison to us. Having said all that we are all different, so some type 2 diabetics may be able to eat a banana (or half a banana) with something high in fat like double cream and still not suffer a spike in Blood Glucose - but unfortunately those are very few indeed. So to put it in the starkest terms: 1. Government health guidelines - such as 'healthy carbs' and '5 a day' at the very least make some people very ill (perhaps even cause amputation, blindness and death). 2. Conventional medical treatment for type 2 diabetes actually makes the condition worse! 3. You can't trust most dieticians, doctors and other 'Healthcare Professionals' - even those who specialise in diabetes! 4. You must be sceptical and yet open minded. If a BG meter backs up what somebody says - then it may well be true - if it doesn't -well then it is more likely to be false, at least for you! On a personal note, I have found a Low Carb High Fat lifestyle has been beneficial for me both in terms of controlling my BG and also in terms of losing weight without going hungry! [/QUOTE]
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