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<blockquote data-quote="ianf0ster" data-source="post: 2122655" data-attributes="member: 506169"><p>Most people don't say things like that, however most people are not me !</p><p>I first heard of the Apple Pip problem when somebody got seriously ill from eating an apple yoghurt.</p><p>I think you would have to eat something like the pips (more usually people just eat the whole core) from 20 apples in a single session, for any symptoms, likewise for Brazil nuts huge quantities would be required. Green patches on potatoes and rhubarb are easier to get ill from.</p><p>Since I am more of a science/engineering type than most I don't understand why people suddenly go from its completely OK (or even completely good for you) to avoid it at all costs when there is hardly a change in the evidence. But I recognise that they do. They seem to expect life to be both simple and fair, when it is obviously neither!</p><p></p><p>I would like to defend my position on 5 a day too. Without the knowledge from these forums what does 'Eat 5 portions of Fruit and Vegetables per day' mean to you?</p><p>To be it meant choose fruit primarily, and it certainly didn't say avoid high Sugar fruit or High Carb fruit or high carb veg!</p><p>No, it was that which started the fad for juicing fruit to get your 5 portions as simply as possible. It was only much later that it was admitted that fruit juice is almost as bad as neat table sugar (matching for quantities of carbs).</p><p>In fact my GP back around 2000 told me to go Low fat because of my familial cardio history. But he didn't just say Low Fat, he said lots of whole grains and 5 a day. So by the time I needed the 3x bypass op, I had been on a high Carb low fat lifestyle for over 15yrs and was unsurprisingly more than 20lbs heavier!</p><p></p><p>Yet at the same GP practice, at least some of them are still telling me as a Type 2 diabetic to eat low fat, lower carb but lots of 'healthy grains'. They have still not got the message that for the average (or even most) Type 2 there is no such thing as a healthy grain!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ianf0ster, post: 2122655, member: 506169"] Most people don't say things like that, however most people are not me ! I first heard of the Apple Pip problem when somebody got seriously ill from eating an apple yoghurt. I think you would have to eat something like the pips (more usually people just eat the whole core) from 20 apples in a single session, for any symptoms, likewise for Brazil nuts huge quantities would be required. Green patches on potatoes and rhubarb are easier to get ill from. Since I am more of a science/engineering type than most I don't understand why people suddenly go from its completely OK (or even completely good for you) to avoid it at all costs when there is hardly a change in the evidence. But I recognise that they do. They seem to expect life to be both simple and fair, when it is obviously neither! I would like to defend my position on 5 a day too. Without the knowledge from these forums what does 'Eat 5 portions of Fruit and Vegetables per day' mean to you? To be it meant choose fruit primarily, and it certainly didn't say avoid high Sugar fruit or High Carb fruit or high carb veg! No, it was that which started the fad for juicing fruit to get your 5 portions as simply as possible. It was only much later that it was admitted that fruit juice is almost as bad as neat table sugar (matching for quantities of carbs). In fact my GP back around 2000 told me to go Low fat because of my familial cardio history. But he didn't just say Low Fat, he said lots of whole grains and 5 a day. So by the time I needed the 3x bypass op, I had been on a high Carb low fat lifestyle for over 15yrs and was unsurprisingly more than 20lbs heavier! Yet at the same GP practice, at least some of them are still telling me as a Type 2 diabetic to eat low fat, lower carb but lots of 'healthy grains'. They have still not got the message that for the average (or even most) Type 2 there is no such thing as a healthy grain! [/QUOTE]
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