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Prof Sherif Sultan - Statins - organised crime !

I saw this on the Breckenridge Presentations thread (in the Low Carb diet sub forum). It is absolutely jam packed full of data, evidence and proof that, indeed, there is such a thing as the Food Mafia (my words) and Big Pharma Mafia (again, my words). If it were not for people like Sherif Sultan we would all still be in the dark.
 
I'm glad he's on our side. If people like him keep shining a light on these things then maybe it will help prevent the crooks from profiting.
 
CherryAA said:
Very interesting contents - worth a look
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Thank you, very interesting, although quite depressing. As someone who suffered from the three well recognised and documented side effects, who do I sue? GP? NHS? NICE? Manufacturer?
 
DavidGrahamJones said:
Thank you, very interesting, although quite depressing. As someone who suffered from the three well recognised and documented side effects, who do I sue? GP? NHS? NICE? Manufacturer?
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That is the issue isn't it. The public relies on the professionals to give us well considered advice taking into account all evidence and to recognise the side effects if they occur. Today is someone said " you can trust a banker" one would simply laugh and hopefully look carefully before embarking on one of their schemes . The same needs to hold true of the medical profession in all its manifestations. Its all very sad.

There should be grounds for a massive class action law suit against something for the huge damage done to human health and happiness over the last 30 years , but when something is as big as this is, then where to start becomes overwhelming.
 
CherryAA said:
here should be grounds for a massive class action law suit against something for the huge damage done to human health and happiness over the last 30 years , but when something is as big as this is, then where to start becomes overwhelming.
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True but then again who would we sue? We all pay for the NHS so we'd end up suing ourselves.. So if you think about it we are all employing the people who are giving us dreadful advice (in the case of Type 2 anyway for the most part). For statins I guess you would have to go after the Pharma companies. They are the one's who have profited and maybe skewed the data? Will we ever know?
 
bulkbiker said:
True but then again who would we sue? We all pay for the NHS so we'd end up suing ourselves.. So if you think about it we are all employing the people who are giving us dreadful advice (in the case of Type 2 anyway for the most part). For statins I guess you would have to go after the Pharma companies. They are the one's who have profited and maybe skewed the data? Will we ever know?
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Agreed entirely - unfortunately instead of victimless crime, we are talking of millions of victims and an unidentifiable plaintiff !
 
Remember that governments, too, have a hand in all this. Lobbyists for Big Food and Big Pharma should not be such a powerful group that they can sway political decision/outcome. I think it should be put into law that all academics and lobbyists declare conflict of interest as a matter of course. A case in point is the (not health related) Net Neutrality case that has been in the news recently.
 
CherryAA said:
we are talking of millions of victims and an unidentifiable plaintiff !
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Looking at the many lawsuits against all makes of statin, in the U.S. the plaintiffs are those taking legal action, the defendant being the pharmaceutical companies. Googling "statin class action lawsuit" is pretty depressing really. I think if my GP even mentioned the word, I'd ask to consult my lawyer first. I don't have one although I have second cousin twice removed who is a corporate lawyer, perhaps she'll take on some interesting work.
 
That.. really is shocking. Especially as I was told today that I really needed to be on statins. And that presentation showed my combination of warfarin + statin would be a very bad idea. I think I'm going to refuse that and refer my GP to that presentation.

Also now curious about some of his comments about statins and diabetes in the early part, ie once you'd been on statins, it could permanentyly and irreversably cause T2. I'd taken a month's course of statins, now I'm T2..
 
Hmmmmm - slightly scary viewing for those of us with low cholesterol :nailbiting:

Anybody have any tips on increasing it?
 
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