I dont know if this has happend to anyone else who has applied for a provisonal licence or if anyone knows of someone it has happened to
We sent off the aplication form for my sons provisional licence, ticking the box that he is a type 1 diabetic and obviously on insulin.We received back fm DVLA the diab1 medical form that we filled in, ticking the boxes where it asked what type of diabetes you have and yes to - do you regularly monitor yr blood glucose. yes to have you experienced hypos. yes to recognise hypos etc, and ticking no to the box that asks have you had a disabling hypo attck in the past 12 months that needd to be treated by someone else.
He does have the occasional hypo, recognises them, treats them and tests at least 4 times a day, and has never had a hypo that needed treating by anyone else. We also gave details of his consultant and our gp giving DVLA permisson to contact them for any additional information then posted this back and waited for his licence to come through
Last wednesday my son received a letter fm the DVLA stating that he had been refused a licence on condiiton of his diabetes and i quote fm the letter:
"it is clear fm the info received that your condition affects your ability to control a veh safely at all times and that modified controls or an autojatic gearbox would not overcome this. If and when your condition improves to a degree that it no longer affects safe driving, with or without special controls or a restricion to an automatic gearbox, a reapplicain would be welcome"
further in the letter is states
"if your GP or Specialist can provide any additional information abour your condition that shows, in their view, that you can meet the reqd medical standards, pse forward the information to me as soon as possible"
So my son wasnt best pleased when he opened it up and read that especially the bit about his condition improving. He has freinds in college and who he has met on duk holidays who are learning to drive at the moment and didnt have any problems getting a provisional licence
It appears that the letters are a bog standard reply, printed off and even a printed signature on them. they have not consulted my sons consultant or gp to get additional information as we have been in touch with his consultant and he has said that DVLA have not contacted him, so we have an appointment to see him on 28 Jul, (it appears that want us to do the leg work for them), taking along the chapter 3 to the "at a glance guide to medical standards of fitness to drive for medical practitioners (inf188/2)" because reading that he meets the requirements to be able to drive
We can of course go to a Magistrates court to appeal the decision, which i would love to do, just to get the people who signes the letter(s) into court to ask them some questions of thier expertse in diabetes as well as their medical background and how they cme to make the decsisions, but unfortunately i dont think i could afford to
It makes me wonder if they have to reject so many a year to make out they are doing their job, when as mentioned earlier his friends have had no problems obtaiing a licence. Maybe i should write a letter under the freedom of information and ask how many Type 1 Diabetics they refuse for a provisional licence. It also make you wonder why ask for contact details of consultants/gps etc as well as giving permission for them to contact them is they are not going to.
anyway apologies for the long post but it would be interesting to see if any other 17 year olds have had this problem obtatinig a provisional licence or not
We sent off the aplication form for my sons provisional licence, ticking the box that he is a type 1 diabetic and obviously on insulin.We received back fm DVLA the diab1 medical form that we filled in, ticking the boxes where it asked what type of diabetes you have and yes to - do you regularly monitor yr blood glucose. yes to have you experienced hypos. yes to recognise hypos etc, and ticking no to the box that asks have you had a disabling hypo attck in the past 12 months that needd to be treated by someone else.
He does have the occasional hypo, recognises them, treats them and tests at least 4 times a day, and has never had a hypo that needed treating by anyone else. We also gave details of his consultant and our gp giving DVLA permisson to contact them for any additional information then posted this back and waited for his licence to come through
Last wednesday my son received a letter fm the DVLA stating that he had been refused a licence on condiiton of his diabetes and i quote fm the letter:
"it is clear fm the info received that your condition affects your ability to control a veh safely at all times and that modified controls or an autojatic gearbox would not overcome this. If and when your condition improves to a degree that it no longer affects safe driving, with or without special controls or a restricion to an automatic gearbox, a reapplicain would be welcome"
further in the letter is states
"if your GP or Specialist can provide any additional information abour your condition that shows, in their view, that you can meet the reqd medical standards, pse forward the information to me as soon as possible"
So my son wasnt best pleased when he opened it up and read that especially the bit about his condition improving. He has freinds in college and who he has met on duk holidays who are learning to drive at the moment and didnt have any problems getting a provisional licence
It appears that the letters are a bog standard reply, printed off and even a printed signature on them. they have not consulted my sons consultant or gp to get additional information as we have been in touch with his consultant and he has said that DVLA have not contacted him, so we have an appointment to see him on 28 Jul, (it appears that want us to do the leg work for them), taking along the chapter 3 to the "at a glance guide to medical standards of fitness to drive for medical practitioners (inf188/2)" because reading that he meets the requirements to be able to drive
We can of course go to a Magistrates court to appeal the decision, which i would love to do, just to get the people who signes the letter(s) into court to ask them some questions of thier expertse in diabetes as well as their medical background and how they cme to make the decsisions, but unfortunately i dont think i could afford to
It makes me wonder if they have to reject so many a year to make out they are doing their job, when as mentioned earlier his friends have had no problems obtaiing a licence. Maybe i should write a letter under the freedom of information and ask how many Type 1 Diabetics they refuse for a provisional licence. It also make you wonder why ask for contact details of consultants/gps etc as well as giving permission for them to contact them is they are not going to.
anyway apologies for the long post but it would be interesting to see if any other 17 year olds have had this problem obtatinig a provisional licence or not
