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Question on treatment.

TROBSON1

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Chester le Street County Durham DH2 3HA
Type of diabetes
Type 2
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HI I am newly diagnosed and have just had my first appointment with the specialist nurse. I am amazed that despite feeling awful.listless and at times falling asleep at the drop of a hat,no treatment was offered.No medication just advice on diet which was,nt so bad anyway. I neither drink or smoke and I am confident my wife has the correct approach to our food intake. As a vegitarian she is ever watchful on the subject of food.
The enemy is prednisalone, taken for more than 20 years.Current dose rate for last few years 20mg day. A BI of 28 I could do with losing 14 LB/
6Kg. I will make the effort but the steriod is going to make it difficult. Any comments on my treatment plan?
 
Perhaps you could give us some numbers. It is difficult to assess you when the nurse offered you no medication and neither you or me know why.

It could be that you are not a serious case or that she wants you to try diet and exercise.
 
Perhaps you could give us some numbers. It is difficult to assess you when the nurse offered you no medication and neither you or me know why.

It could be that you are not a serious case or that she wants you to try diet and exercise.

The magic number was 66 at this moment Ihave afractured spine and a bulging disc.Exercise is a bit of a problem.
You appear to be doing well,good luck
 
Hi @TROBSON1 and welcome to the forum.

Type2s on here can testify that there is a postcode lottery as to whether you get good or bad advice .

Steroid treatment can make management more difficult as it will raise your blood sugars and you may need medication to help with this.

There is some basic advice that @daisy1 gives to newly diagnosed and I have tagged her to provide this for you. Diet is equally important and it would be best to have a good read around the forum and come back with any questions that you have. It would seem that you have not been offered a meter and test strips, (another postcode lottery) and you may have to buy your own as without it you will not know which foods are suitable for you.
 
High and welcome
I will tag @daisy1 who will give you some useful info for new members.there is a lot of food you will be surprised to find out is ok I go for high fat and low carbs you need to cut down on spuds pasta rice and bread keep away from anything diabetic( waste of money) have high fats cheese cream keep away from light or fat free as they put sugar in them and if the wife will allow you bacon egg for breakfast are fine I love belly pork loads of butter not spreads. That's it for starters but if you have any questions please ask
Keep well stay safe JJ
 
Hi. It must be difficult with your other conditions and the steroids. An HBa1C of 66 does need medication unless there is a good medical reason otherwise. The normal medication would be Metformin to help reduce insulin resistance. A low carb diet will help but it sounds like you are already eating a sensible diet. I can only suggest you speak to the nurse and suggest having Metformin?
 
The OP is a vegetarian.
 
The OP is a vegetarian.
Sorry in the 1st post it says his wife is veggie but does not say if he is I know a few veggies that allow others to eat meat but perhaps I have it wrong that is why I said if the wife allows
 
Hi and welcome,

With or without Metformin, diet is the key. Carbohydrate is the main thing to reduce, especially bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and cereals, anything made with flour (sauces, gravy etc), plus we also need to be careful with fruit and milk. Good that your wife has what you describe as the correct approach - but diabetes strikes at vegetarians too! Beans and pulses eaten by vegetarians can be quite high in carb content.

I strongly urge you to buy a blood glucose meter. This is an essential tool in helping you discover which foods affect you the most. It's no use anyone saying never eat a piece of bread again, because your body may tolerate bread whereas someone else's can't. It is trial and error, and only by testing regularly (before and after food) will learn.

Ask questions, read the forum, and read up as much as you can about this disease. Good luck!
 
@TROBSON1

Hello and welcome to the forum

In addition to the excellent answers you have already had above, here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Carry on asking questions as members will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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