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welsh_kev

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So, here i am, newly diagnosed t2. Put myself on very low carb diet, upped my exercise and the weight is coming off nicely. If i loose a stone i will be a good healthy weight.
A result of being diagnosed is im already feeling so much better day to day.
Ive recieved my bg test meter only to be told by my gp that test strips are not available on prescription, nurse also says i dont need to test.
Sooooo, how the hell do i manage what foods suit me? Beyond belief.
Anyways, im gonna order an sd codefree tonight so i can afford the consumables without the need for a 2nd job!
Rant over...thank you :0)

Kev
 
welsh_kev wrote
only to be told by my gp that test strips are not available on prescription, nurse also says i dont need to test.

You're learning fast :D

If HCPs were elected by diabetics, they wouldn't be :lol:

Geoff
ps I hear there are some good HCPs. Wouldn't want to tar them all with the same brush :shock:
 
Best you don't Geoff, best you don't :wink:

wiflib, stalker by design.
 
thanks all

they can shove their prescription as far as nature allows..lol
ordered the sd codefree and 200 strips today for a fraction of the cost of a single pot of accu chek test strips so im happy,
on a brighter note, bg was 6.8 when i got home pre dinner so its coming down nicely.

kev xx
 
Kev,

When I was first diagnosed, I turned down their immediate desire to put me on drugs, bought my own meter and strips and went to work. The nurse knew from the beginning that I was keen to try to figure this out for myself so when I saw here a month later (just so that she could see how I was getting on) I presented her with spreadsheet data and charts for my bg reading, blood pressure, pulse and weight. All of these showed trends in the right direction which she couldn't help but acknowledge. I ask for some help with this testing as I needed to continue to broaden my menu and make sure I was on the right track. She wrote one without a problem stating that it is normally not done for people who are not on medication because people don't use the information to any great benefit but because I was obviously doing it with an objective in mind, they had no problem with it. She just asked that I limit the test to FBS and those meals that I needed to look at rather than my standard 7 times a day.

By the way, Nice recommendations for self monitoring not only suggest testing for those who are on medication or insulin but for people who are in diet and lifestyle change..... Prove that to her and you might get the prescription and a bit more of her attention.

Kenny :wave:
 
I didn't even bother asking for a meter or strips, I've got enough stress going on without wasting time listening to the HCP give me some poor excuse as to why the NHS don't think I need them.

I've changed a lot since my recent diagnosis - I've decided not to bother trying to enlighten any HCP or anyone else who doesn't want to know because they believe they know it all and have nothing to learn from patients who are willing to do their own research and learn through their own trial and error. If I sense someone doesn't want the feedback I simply don't offer it now and nor do I help charitable organisations or donate to NHS charities who remain blinkered and closed minded where patients feedback is concerned.

Yesterday I had a gynae appointment and I forgot to mention to the doctor that I would like a copy of my clinic letter to be sent to me when it's typed up so I asked the receptionist on the way out. She looked blankly at me as if I was asking for a huge favour and grudgingly said she'd see what she could do. I had the same palaver last time I asked for this 'service' which is actually a patient's right. The letter is, after all, from one doctor who is treating us to another doctor, our GP, and the letter is ABOUT US, THE PATIENT. So as it's ABOUT ME, I want to see it. The reason is that a) I'm the patient, b) I want to know what's been diagnosed and what treatment, further investigations, recommendations have been made to my GP, c) I want to ensure that I RECEIVE that recommended treatment, further investigations, recommendations.

Why am I not content to trust my GP practice to READ the letter from the Hospital Consultant?

Well, on a professional level I'm a Medical Secretary who works for Hospital Consultants and I know the clinic letters I type are thorough but on a personal level I'm also a Patient (with a capital P), and I've experienced 'being left out of the information loop' one time too many and became very ill and nearly lost my life because my former GP DID NOT BOTHER to follow the Hospital Consultants recommendations to perform regular blood tests on me. And that GP practice is not the only GP practice to make that 'error'.

A year or so ago a Practice Nurse complained to the GMC about one of the GPs in her practice who she knew was ignoring test results and failing to inform patients who had cancer, that they needed to have further tests and reviews performed. They investigated and a stack of test results which should have been dealt with urgently by the GP were found stashed away in the office. Some of those cancer patients had died and some had deteriorated because of that GP 'error', but importantly, if the PATIENT had been INCLUDED IN THE INFORMATION LOOP, they would have been AWARE that they needed further treatment or tests and would have been able to contact their GP to find out when this would happen.

As the situation currently stands, patients know sod all about what happens next, and if the GP chooses to ignore the Hospital Consultant's instructions regarding further treatment, then they can do that and no-one is any the wiser. The patient knows nothing because they're not privy to the clinic letter, and the Hospital Consultant assumes that the GP is doing what has been advised.

Meanwhile, PATIENTS DETERIORATE AND DIE.

So as a Medical Secretary, I am always MORE THAN HAPPY to provide patients with clinic letters and I think it should be the NORM rather than the EXCEPTION. And the majority of Hospital Consultants I've worked for are also quite happy for the patient to have a copy of their clinic letter. I think it's INSULTING to leave the PATIENT out of the communication loop and the excuse made is often that it's in the patients best interests not to know. And it's a poor excuse because the real reason is ECONOMICS. There are three people involved in the clinical loop - PATIENT, GP and CONSULTANT - they should ALL be privy to any correspondence, ESPECIALLY the patient.

I'm sad to say that it's my colleagues in the Admin and Med Sec departments who often ignore the patients request because a) it means they physically have more pieces of paper to print off and put in envelopes and it adds to their workload, b) postage and stationery costs are increased c) there may be more telephone queries from patients to deal with.

Be that as it may, it's not a good reason to keep the PATIENT in the dark about their own diagnosis and treatment and I really wish patients would WAKE UP and realise we need to PARTICIPATE and keep up to date with our own management.

The GP who didn't bother to inform his cancer patients they needed further treatment or investigations wasn't struck off by the way. He was simply suspended for a period of time and then moved to another practice. However, the Practice Nurse who acted in the best interests of the patients by reporting the GP lost her job and has been unable to find further employment. That's sad.

But the WORST thing was - PATIENTS weren't just suspended, nor did they lose their jobs - THEY DIED.

So I'd say that the clinic letters and test results should actually BE ADDRESSED TO AND SENT TO THE PATIENT and the COPY should be sent to the GP, if the NHS REALLY had any respect for the patient. If a patient doesn't want to know the details, and wants to leave their health and their life in the hands of their GP - fine, they can request NOT to be sent clinic letters.

But as it stands at the moment, despite all the fancy leaflets on display in hospital reception and clinic areas telling us we only have to ask and it shall be given - the reality is - ask several people, receive blank stares, telephone secretary, be told she'll do what she can ... it's NOT good enough. Glossy leaflets ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH - WITHOUT THE ACTION TO MATCH THE WORDS.

How dare the NHS complain about the extra costs involved in keeping patients copied in to clinic letters etc. The NHS is ABOUT PATIENTS. Without PATIENTS, no HCP would be in a job. They should remember that first and foremost.

:x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2121286/

http://patients.about.com/od/yourmedica ... esults.htm

Rant over.
 
Welcome Kev

Use that anger to your advantage!

Get your SD Codefree, do your tests and then show the gp and the dsn what can be achieved. I had to self fund for the first 3 months but got my gp to relent and prescribe some strips once he saw how good my results were so hopefully you can do the same.
 
Thanks all

Im gonna order the sd codefree software and get on with it. As said, i just bought the sd meter and 200 strips for the same cost as one single tub of accu view strips. I realise some say they read high but its surely consistant?
My weight is slowly coming down thanks to low carbs and exercise and im feeling energised compared with just 2 weeks ago. Bg seems to have dropped from +24 to 6.8 last night so im doing ok and will get better as i learn more about foods.
In a perverse way, i suppose im glad ive been diagnose as i couldnt have carried on as i was 2 weeks ago.
To end, my wife rung the diabetes nurse in the surgery to request accu view strips for me, the nurse hasnt even had the curtesy to ring us back yet!!
Now, if i was on methadone, they seem to get loads of attention in tye waiting room...dont make sense

Kev
 
Hi Welsh Kev, I've just been to see my DN and the first thing she said as I walked in the door was 'you've lost weight' which was rather nice. Anyway, she was more than happy to give me a prescription this time for my Accu Chek and said she would only get in trouble if the patient was not making any effort but my efforts clearly show I am. She was not allowed to put it on repeat though, so I will have to find an excuse to swing by once a month :)
 
welsh_kev said:
Thanks all

Im gonna order the sd codefree software and get on with it. As said, i just bought the sd meter and 200 strips for the same cost as one single tub of accu view strips. I realise some say they read high but its surely consistant?
My weight is slowly coming down thanks to low carbs and exercise and im feeling energised compared with just 2 weeks ago. Bg seems to have dropped from +24 to 6.8 last night so im doing ok and will get better as i learn more about foods.
In a perverse way, i suppose im glad ive been diagnose as i couldnt have carried on as i was 2 weeks ago.
To end, my wife rung the diabetes nurse in the surgery to request accu view strips for me, the nurse hasnt even had the curtesy to ring us back yet!!
Now, if i was on methadone, they seem to get loads of attention in tye waiting room...dont make sense

Kev

It doesn't make sense Kev, so don't waste your precious energy trying to work it out. I use the Codefree and yes it does give slightly higher readings than the Accu but they ARE consistent. I'm certainly not advocating ignoring our clinicians but don't wait around to get the heads up - stick with the forum and get to grips with your diet, even if it's only in a small way at first and keep testing. You'll be feeling much better than you have been so far.

I'm 9 weeks past my diagnosis and the difference in how I feel is really beginning to show now - mentally, physically and psychologically. Also my kitchen cupboards have never been so tidy because after two weeks on LCHF diet, I had the energy to get down on my hands and knees and clear out all the foodstuffs that I can no longer eat and believe me, it was no loss. I now skip around the supermarket glaring at the pasta, rice and bread and patting and apologising to my poor tummy that is no longer bloated from trying to digest carbs all my life. I should have listened to my tummy from the start. It's really wonderful to look in my kitchen cupboards and fridge now and see cream, butter, mature full fat cheese, Greek yoghurt, strawberries, aubergine, courgette, asparagus, avocado ... all the foods I really DO like and which LIKE me back! I'm no longer obsessed with food and hungering for my next meal. I enjoy my food soooooooooo much more it's unbelievable - and the difference is from cutting out processed fast acting carbs and eating ribeye steak and veggies with a knob of butter on top just like I did 'in the good old days' before the 'low-fat Police' changed my eating habits for me.

Believe me I'm now so passionate about the combination of the medical industry, the food industry and diabetes that my local supermarket managers know me by name! I'm in there at every opportunity telling them we need more 'LOW CARB HIGH FAT' foods on show, and I'll keep mentioning those four words at every opportunity I get!

:roll: :lol:
 
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