Reactive Hypoglycaemia

Linagirl · Nov 16, 2015

Tried to get back to normality a bit today and took the kids to school in the car. I ate two spoons of yoghurt and a gluten free sausage and I was exhausted by the time we got there (it was only 15 mins drive) don't know what I was doing wrong and today I have found I am shattered again by tea time. It could be unrelated to sugar I suppose and be my thyroid playing up but I'm absolutely shattered. I am really worried about going back to work next week feeling like this

Lamont D · Nov 16, 2015

Linagirl said:
Tried to get back to normality a bit today and took the kids to school in the car. I ate two spoons of yoghurt and a gluten free sausage and I was exhausted by the time we got there (it was only 15 mins drive) don't know what I was doing wrong and today I have found I am shattered again by tea time. It could be unrelated to sugar I suppose and be my thyroid playing up but I'm absolutely shattered. I am really worried about going back to work next week feeling like this

Good days, bad days, some ok, some not so ok!

You will get through this, of course your worried, but it will be worth it!

Getting back to some normality, will move you on and maybe, just maybe, take your mind off food for a while!

Linagirl · Nov 16, 2015

Fingers crossed Nosher.

I really want to beat this and today I feel like I'm not improving. I walked a mile yesterday and did ten mins today and will try to do more again tonight but I felt more like a lie down when I dropped the kids off not a chance I could have then driven another half an hour walked ten mins and done a days work. Fingers crossed I can do this

Linagirl · Nov 17, 2015

Had a weird day today. Had a 6.8 blood reading when I got up and two hours after then 7.4 after two spoons of yoghurt! Then had an omelette with bacon mushroom and tomato and was 5.5 two hours later. Don't know what is going on but I definitely felt unwell yesterday so whether the morning reading was affected because of that I don't know. Try again tomorrow x

Brunneria · Nov 17, 2015

If my bg is high in the mornings (Dawn Phenomenon) then a coffeencream or a protein breakfast makes it drop beautifully.

I can go from a silly-high DP reading of 8+, eat, and 2 hours later be in the 5s. I see it as a good thing - my happy zone is between 5 and 7.

Linagirl · Nov 17, 2015

Thanks Brun I'll give that a whirl. Never had a high in the morning really when I have measured so was a bit down about it but will see how I get on in the morning. Many thanks Emma x

Linagirl · Nov 18, 2015

Has anyone seen http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/may

Linagirl · Nov 18, 2015

Woke up with a 6.6 again today! Don't know why my body is misbehaving when I am following a low carb eating plan to the letter x

Kaz261 · Nov 18, 2015

Linagirl said:
Woke up with a 6.6 again today! Don't know why my body is misbehaving when I am following a low carb eating plan to the letter x

Morning Emma, sorry to hear you've had some frustrating results the last couple of days. I don't have enough knowledge or experience to advise but no how frustrating and disheartening it can be. Have you changed your evening routine in any way that could have had an effect? X

Lamont D · Nov 18, 2015

Linagirl said:
Has anyone seen http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2013/may

Won't come up @Linagirl!

Give us a clue!

Kaz261 said:
Morning Emma, sorry to hear you've had some frustrating results the last couple of days. I don't have enough knowledge or experience to advise but no how frustrating and disheartening it can be. Have you changed your evening routine in any way that could have had an effect? X

Linagirl said:
Woke up with a 6.6 again today! Don't know why my body is misbehaving when I am following a low carb eating plan to the letter x

This could be dawn phenomenon, where because you are following lower carb, your liver is giving you a boost before your day ahead, this is normal and its not that high above normal.

Just do a little exercise or chores before breakfast to help you.

If your bloods are ok after breakfast then no worries!

Linagirl · Nov 18, 2015

Thanks Nosher will bear all that in mind

Don't think so Kaz the only thing I can say is I think I have a minor bug headache and nausea but so hard to tell.

Re the article it was a study by the Univeristy of Newcastle Dr r Taylor I think where they found that fat deposits around the pancreas was the major cause of type 2 diabetes and they out 11 people on a 800 calorie diet for two months and at the end of it they were all back to normal blood glucose with no meds and 7 of them managed to retain their healthy status!! Fascinating.

Lamont D · Nov 18, 2015

Linagirl said:
Thanks Nosher will bear all that in mind

Don't think so Kaz the only thing I can say is I think I have a minor bug headache and nausea but so hard to tell.

Re the article it was a study by the Univeristy of Newcastle Dr r Taylor I think where they found that fat deposits around the pancreas was the major cause of type 2 diabetes and they out 11 people on a 800 calorie diet for two months and at the end of it they were all back to normal blood glucose with no meds and 7 of them managed to retain their healthy status!! Fascinating.

That is the Newcastle diet!
It is a good one for a while to kick your pancreas into producing more insulin.!

As a RH er, is that what I would want, don't we have enough already?

Your endocrine system is working ok after you start low carb, hence the excess insulin.

What has happened is your liver has lost some visceral fat. So it can boost you when it thinks it needs to. It is not only the pancreas or the liver but all your organs and hormones working out of balance. That is what RH is!

Your glucose is used up quickly, that's abnormal, your pancreas should stop but doesn't, hence excess insulin and you go low! That means your endocrine system is out of balance and abnormal (weird!)
Blood glucose disorder!
That is the science without the science!

Newcastle 'diet' is a diet which is short term for getting your body working for you.

Unfortunately, we are facing a long term lifestyle change.
Very low carbing, is the only way, I have come across that treats this!

Linagirl · Nov 18, 2015

Sorry I wasn't meaning for RHers. I am scared that they are going to say I am type 2 as well and my dad has been diagnosed pre diabetes but isn't taking it seriously. Just wondered what anyone thought of it.

Brunneria · Nov 18, 2015

Honestly? Being type 2 has made my life MUCH easier.
Seriously.

All those years of RH, all those lows.
Suddenly, when I hit T2, the sudden drops in bg slowed down and became much more manageable. It was like being on holiday.

Being T2 is (in my experience) only as hard as you make it - by that, I mean that if you eat sensibly (which is VLC for us RHers), then there is no need for all the D drugs, so no side effects from them. And the T2 is controlled by VLC. So it is just business as normal, really.

I realise that this isn't everyone's experience of T2, but I definitely feel better now than I did with just RH. Partly due to the strict VLCing, and partly due to the much better understanding of bg and the slower RH drops.

Most of the problems with T2 seem to be with people who are in denial, don't change their diet, went years before diagnosis and have already developed complications, or those who have followed the NHS high carb nonsense diet for years, and have therefore deteriorated.

Plus, a diagnosis of T2 benefits you in a number of ways - regular HbA1cs, regular blood tests and check ups, eye tests for retinopathy, foot tests...

I see it as a positive thing.

Lamont D · Nov 18, 2015

Linagirl said:
Sorry I wasn't meaning for RHers. I am scared that they are going to say I am type 2 as well and my dad has been diagnosed pre diabetes but isn't taking it seriously. Just wondered what anyone thought of it.

You don't know what they are going to say, so you don't need to worry so much.
That will only raise your blood glucose levels! Ha!

What ever it is, you can be prepared for it and you know that you feel better doing what you are doing now!

Only you know what your father is like and what to do, show him what will happen if he doesn't take it more seriously.

Linagirl · Nov 18, 2015

Thanks guys that makes me feel better. My mum is on the case with my dad and he has cut back his sugar a bit but can't seem to get away from filling his trolley up with junk! Mum bins it all so it's costing him and he isn't getting the benefit. We are both going to work on him but the other day having been told he is pre diabetes he served himself up a shandy with full sugar lemonade!!! You can't tell some people....

On a side note how do you all get on with alcohol. I don't drink much but wondered if I could have a glass of champagne or a red wine at Christmas x

Lamont D · Nov 18, 2015

Linagirl said:
Thanks guys that makes me feel better. My mum is on the case with my dad and he has cut back his sugar a bit but can't seem to get away from filling his trolley up with junk! Mum bins it all so it's costing him and he isn't getting the benefit. We are both going to work on him but the other day having been told he is pre diabetes he served himself up a shandy with full sugar lemonade!!! You can't tell some people....

On a side note how do you all get on with alcohol. I don't drink much but wondered if I could have a glass of champagne or a red wine at Christmas x

Sorry, had to give it up for some strange reason about ten years ago, never could drink much at any rate, a nice Bacardi and bottled diet coke is the last liquor I drank!

Beer made me ill! Weird that!

Brunneria · Nov 18, 2015

I've never really liked alcohol. Sometimes enjoyed the flavour, but never enjoyed the feeling of being drunk. Other recreational substances have been MUCH more fun.

I guess that the trick would be to try a small amount, test, see how it goes, and work from there...

lindisfel · Nov 18, 2015

I realize now I have been riding the B.G. switchback for years. There is no way I shall be going back on that game I've never felt well for years.
Now I have more energy and feel less tired.
regards
Derek
'

Brunneria said:
Honestly? Being type 2 has made my life MUCH easier.
Seriously.

All those years of RH, all those lows.
Suddenly, when I hit T2, the sudden drops in bg slowed down and became much more manageable. It was like being on holiday.

Being T2 is (in my experience) only as hard as you make it - by that, I mean that if you eat sensibly (which is VLC for us RHers), then there is no need for all the D drugs, so no side effects from them. And the T2 is controlled by VLC. So it is just business as normal, really.

I realise that this isn't everyone's experience of T2, but I definitely feel better now than I did with just RH. Partly due to the strict VLCing, and partly due to the much better understanding of bg and the slower RH drops.

Most of the problems with T2 seem to be with people who are in denial, don't change their diet, went years before diagnosis and have already developed complications, or those who have followed the NHS high carb nonsense diet for years, and have therefore deteriorated.

Plus, a diagnosis of T2 benefits you in a number of ways - regular HbA1cs, regular blood tests and check ups, eye tests for retinopathy, foot tests...

I see it as a positive thing.

Lamont D · Nov 18, 2015

Brunneria said:
I've never really liked alcohol. Sometimes enjoyed the flavour, but never enjoyed the feeling of being drunk. Other recreational substances have been MUCH more fun.

I guess that the trick would be to try a small amount, test, see how it goes, and work from there...

Well, I never!

Oh ok! Once and couldn't do that either!

Wuss!

Or always weird!

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