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goonerles

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hi i have been very recently diagnosed with type 2 and i am waiting to see my practice nurse in 2 weeks but i am confused with the readings that i had are they high or are they average for a type 2
i am not on any tablets yet or will i go straght onto insulin
the readings were as follows ---first fasting test was 8.6 then after 2 hours the reading was 16.7 is this a normal type of reading you would expect i am 52 male six foot tall average build and am not overweight and exercise reasonable amount if anyone can give me some info that would be great
cheers les
 
Hi Les and welcome to the forum :) Presumably you had a GTT test. The fasting level for diagnosis is over 7.0. Yours was the same as mine. At 2 hours the level for diagnosis is over 11.1. We can't tell you if you will go onto medication or insulin - you will find that out at your next appointment but as a purely personal opinion, insulin doesn't sound very likely yet. Sometimes they will try without medication to start with. You can help yourself by watching your diet. Here is some information that should get you started on the road to good control. Ask as many questions as you like as there is always someone here to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
hi just need to ask a question ???
recently diagnosed t2 i keep feeling tired and just not feeling right i was thinking it was a hypo so had a biscuit or small chocolaate bar which made me feel better but i have been told that they cannot be hypos as i am not on any medication as yet see nurse in two weeks but other posts on this forum say that they are having hypos and not on any medication
which is correct ? are they hypos or not! feeling really confused now !!!!!!!
 
I used to feel really tired if my level was high.
Which it was constantly.
I'm on tablets and a low GL diet, and feel much more energetic now.

I had to find my own meter to self test though.
 
Hi goonerless

You may be experiencing a 'false hypo'. This happens when you have had a high blood sugar levels and because you have been eating less carbs, the level drops and your body is confused as it has been used to so much sugar swimming around. You could then feel like you were hypo, but your blood sugar level wouldn't be down in the 4.0 mmol/l which would be a true hypo.
 
hi many thanks for the replies it starts to make sense now its been explained properly
i will get my head round it all eventually i will not let it beat me i have gone through worse and come out smiling
great site and lots of good info
will keep you posted when i get my hb results back
 
Hi Gooneries, just to re-assure you a bit, my friend was recently diagnosed, and his FASTING was 16.2! He still went on diet and exercise only, using my diet, and he's now down to normal (infact, very good) levels and isn't going on any meds, let alone insulin. His fasting sugar levels now are about 5.5
Regarding hypos, anyone (even non-diabetics) can get low sugar levels. My non-diabetic daughter does and comes over shaky (and weepy!) until she eats something. That is NOT the same as the dangerous Hypos diabetics on certain medication, like insulin, can get. I get down to 3.8 after a game of golf, but I'm not "hypo" in the dangerous meaning of the word.
Good luck!
 
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