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Recently diagnosed pre diabetes.trying to figure it all out!

OK so this is what I learnt on the nhs desmonds course.
Your blood cells live for 3 months so unless you have transfusion you have completely 'different' blood in you every 3 months therefore there should be no reason why you have to wait a year to get another HBA1C test. Tell the DR that you have made changes and you want to see if you have improved your situation. I find that being persistent but also armed with facts means that you generally get what you want and if this dr doesnt agree see another one.
Read this https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/managing-your-diabetes/hba1c
Brilliant thankyou for that!
Sounds like the course is actually quite informative.
Yep I decided I will tell them ide like a retest in another 3 months which will have made it around 6 months since the last one.. no more Mrs yes sor no sir 3 bags full for me!lol
 
Hi folks.
I was diagnosed pre in December with an A1c of 44 ...range 42-47 .it wasn't a massive surprise as I had been very unwell and immobile for the previous 2 1/2 years.plus an 8 month stint on a low dose of prednisone (a huge struggle to get off of)
I have several conditions incl ..O/A R/A hyperurecemia anemia of inflamation fibro and other bits and bobs relating to autoimmune.
I had been vegetarian ,pescetarian gluten free and finally vegan for a few years in my quest to try and heal some of the pain and illness before the mother of all flair ups happened in 20020 and a diagnosis of RA. I now believe these faddy diet changes all culminated to make me severely unwell.
I had slowly reintroduced some "normal" food again after the mother of flairs..such as non gluten free bread pasta etc..and some chicken etc and saw basically very little healing at all.
Anyways long story short as possible.
As soon as I learned of the A1C I started making more drastic changes and changes I hadn't tried before..I introduce red meat into my diet (a scary thing because of the hyperurecemia).
I chucked all sugar out (never ate loads and loads of sugary things anyway)
And started cutting carbs wherever possible.
I started educating myself watching and reading whatever I could about diabetes and low carb etc.
As the weeks have gone on I've found myself going lower and lower on the carbs and higher on fats and meat etc.
I have not had a flair up since and more than that, I have seen some significant reductions in pain levels and swelling
There are still some things I'm confused about .. so much info to take in!
I have bought a BS moniter and have been doing that for the last couple of weeks or so and still so confused about numbers and things.
I wondered if anyone would be able to answer some of my questions?

So in the last couple of weeks the highest I've seen my BS ever is about 7.8 after eating but that's only been a couple of times.

My numbers seem to fluctuate all day in the late 4s occasionaly the 5,s and early to mid 6's before food.(I'm testing alot)
My BS is usually higher in the mornings (around the 6's) untill I eat ...when they will often drop to much less.
I wonder could this be to do with IF 16-8 that I do most days?

Other times I can rise to a 7 or so and that can take longer than two hours to come back down to so called normal ranges..
But I seem to also have a delayed "peak"sometimes which makes it hard to decipher where I am,since from what I understand blood sugar should return to normal levels two hours after food.
Is this weird?or just my body doing Its thing?
Another thing is that after several weeks of IF and low carb I have seen zero weight loss.
Infact I have put on according to my lovely scales!
I had lost alot of muscle mass due to awful diet and lack of mobility so could the up-surge in protien be doing this?
What is odd is that I look much slimmer ..my face has cheekbones my shoulders and even waist look much smaller?but still no budge in Weight ?huh?
I'm always reading of people doing what I'm doing who have lost stones and stones but not me :-/
I do believe potentially my higher uric acid levels could be contributing.
It's very frustrating as when I first got very ill 3 years ago now I lost two stone purely because I was so unwell and had no appetite.
I wonder if others may have had this problem.

Also I am wondering if the average levels you get on the glucometer are worth anything ?
Or are they mostly unimportant.

What should I be looking for in my meters information in terms of getting into non diabetic ranges.?

I am extremely motivated to get rid of this pre diabetes diagnosis and would hugely appreciate any thoughts.

Thankyou :)
Hi re the weight loss. I am a vegan for ethical reasons. Have been for nearly twenty years. I started doing vegan keto and it took me around a month for any weight loss to start showing on my scales. Have now lost over 15 kgs still have a bit to go. So I would say keep going it will happen.
 
@donnadonna33 Do not be too concerned about numbers up to 8mmol/l after eating - once I got to that point I saw a change begin and I stuck to the same meals which did not cause above 8s as it felt right. Over time I reduced down to normal Hba1c - just, but lost weight regained energy and generally felt that I was back being me again.
Once you settle into the way of eating you might find that things which seem tempting prove to be more like chewing cardboard than some sort of treat. Things bought in shops might well seem just too sickly sweet to enjoy.
There are lots of alternatives to high starch or sugar foods. I have taken some dishes along to gatherings of morris dancers and having set them on the table I go to take my coat off and find the dish is empty by the time I get back.
Oh totally agree thankyou :-) I never really ate alot of junk .rarely ever had many take aways..never drank orange juice or sugary drinks .with the exception of crisps!that Is partly why this was such a surprise having always been quite aware about nutrition etc.I now know that even the most concious have been tricked into doing what we think is good for us food wise.
However of course like so many people out there I never gave much thought to the carbs I ate ..as all diabetes tests were perfect before I got so sick over night.
The combination of ****** convenience food like pasta rice and gluten free packaged stuff which Is PACKED full of sugar and carbs because I was unable to cook ..becoming sedentary (I used to walk an hour most days with my dogs)and 8 months on steroids I reckon kicked this all off..I also had a small amount of sugar in my urine 20 years ago during my last pregnancy..I now know this is also a risk factor but of course no one ever told me!

That is fantastic that you've got your numbers down and feel alot better now ..I love that.
Do you feel that you're not really tempted much anymore anyway because you just don't want to do it to yourself and your body? I feel like this now ..I'm happy to make the sacrifice ..plus there are loads of things I don't react to at all ..like dark chocolate after a meal so yay for that!.
Ive even started having takeaways ..kebab tons of salad all the sauces ..no pitta..I mean what's to feel deprived about really.
I think you should post those Morris dancing meals for us :-)
 
Hi re the weight loss. I am a vegan for ethical reasons. Have been for nearly twenty years. I started doing vegan keto and it took me around a month for any weight loss to start showing on my scales. Have now lost over 15 kgs still have a bit to go. So I would say keep going it will happen.
That's truly incredible.I salute you for that.
With vegan it is imperative to get it right.I just couldn't for many reasons and had to make the very very difficult decision to come off of it..
 
I'm not sure what's going on here I have replied to all of you individually but my replies seemed to have disappeared .. maybe a forum glitch or something.just don't want anyone to feel I've not responded to all you're supportive messages.
 
I'm not sure what's going on here I have replied to all of you individually but my replies seemed to have disappeared .. maybe a forum glitch or something.just don't want anyone to feel I've not responded to all you're supportive messages.
I can see your replies… must be a glitch
 
In Australia the dietary guidelines for a person my age and sex is 6 serves of “cereals and grains” (one of our 5 food groups). One serve is 500kJ or, for example, one slice of bread… so if I was following the guidelines I’d be eating at least 120g of net carbs (i.e excluding fibre) a day and that’s before carbs from the other food groups (e.g. fruit, veg, legumes). I eat no where near that and have no intention of eating that. This isn’t a choice I consciously made, it’s just how I’ve always eaten. I have made some small changes like swapping cow’s milk for almond, hazelnut or soy which reduced my carb intake even further since my diagnosis but not huge sweeping changes and not all at once. I do have to have some carbs because I’m on insulin but not 6 serves of cereals and grains… I wouldn’t even enjoy that. My DE and dietician are fine with my diet so that’s good. I do miss chips/crisps but I never ate huge amounts of them anyway but still occassionally have them as a treat (balance and moderation) and as a long-acting carb to treat hypo after quick-acting carbs... the oil content I assume is what makes the crisps sustain me at a higher BSL for longer

Edit: I realise that you’re not on insulin, but this reply is more about carbs and my mention of insulin is only for completeness. Even if I had a different type of diabetes or pre-diabetes I think I’d struggle to eat the amount of carbs our guidelines suggest. They’s due for a new release this year and it will be interesting to see if their stance on what I call super-high carb has changed…
 
In Australia the dietary guidelines for a person my age and sex is 6 serves of “cereals and grains” (one of our 5 food groups). One serve is 500kJ or, for example, one slice of bread… so if I was following the guidelines I’d be eating at least 120g of net carbs (i.e excluding fibre) a day and that’s before carbs from the other food groups (e.g. fruit, veg, legumes). I eat no where near that and have no intention of eating that. This isn’t a choice I consciously made, it’s just how I’ve always eaten. I have made some small changes like swapping cow’s milk for almond, hazelnut or soy which reduced my carb intake even further since my diagnosis but not huge sweeping changes and not all at once. I do have to have some carbs because I’m on insulin but not 6 serves of cereals and grains… I wouldn’t even enjoy that. My DE and dietician are fine with my diet so that’s good. I do miss chips/crisps but I never ate huge amounts of them anyway but still occassionally have them as a treat (balance and moderation) and as a long-acting carb to treat hypo after quick-acting carbs... the oil content I assume is what makes the crisps sustain me at a higher BSL for longer

Edit: I realise that you’re not on insulin, but this reply is more about carbs and my mention of insulin is only for completeness. Even if I had a different type of diabetes or pre-diabetes I think I’d struggle to eat the amount of carbs our guidelines suggest. They’s due for a new release this year and it will be interesting to see if their stance on what I call super-high carb has changed…
That's interesting..I guess you must eat plenty of low carb veggies and nuts ?
It's truly crazy when you start diving into all this just how scary the recommendations are ..(its pretty much the same here in the UK from what I can gather )
Im off to Google diabetes 3.:-)
 
That's interesting..I guess you must eat plenty of low carb veggies and nuts ?
It's truly crazy when you start diving into all this just how scary the recommendations are ..(its pretty much the same here in the UK from what I can gather )
Im off to Google diabetes 3.:)
Just adding to this...I had heard about type 3 but didn't correlate type 3 with the (c)
Wow you must have been really going through it ..very sorry to hear.
I do hope you are on top of things now?
 
That's interesting..I guess you must eat plenty of low carb veggies and nuts ?
It's truly crazy when you start diving into all this just how scary the recommendations are ..(its pretty much the same here in the UK from what I can gather )
Im off to Google diabetes 3.:)
Yes, low carb vegies, nuts, cheese, avocado, meat etc etc… lots to choose from :)
 
Just adding to this...I had heard about type 3 but didn't correlate type 3 with the (c)
Wow you must have been really going through it ..very sorry to hear.
I do hope you are on top of things now?
I was in hospital with the pancreatitis for 2 months, most of it an induced coma... which means I cannot remember most of it thank goodness.

Thank you. After I got diagnosed with diabetes it was tough — lots of up and down emotions and adjustments to medication and stuff. Fortunately things have settled down. I still have bad days emotionally but perhaps that’s natural and I am developing coping strategies
 
Awww that all sounds pretty harrowing.
I very luckily havnt experienced anything as serious as you, but I do have an understanding re some of the emotional issues with constant diagnosises and the loss of my physical freedom.
And often these situations absolutely stop us in our tracks.
You are clearly very courageous.
I think whatever health problem we have, bad days are par for the course.And after alot of anger and frustration over the last few years, I think I'm kind of coming to terms with that ...its ok to feel ****** off and its ok for my body to have days where its struggling.Just have to listen to it and rest and go with it all I suppose...theres so much we are in control of and some things we arnt I think accepting that is probably the key really.
I hope you continue to heal and make progress in your journey :-)
 
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