Don't trust protein shakes as you do not know what is in their make up. You are a diabetic, so you need to know what you are consuming and how it responds to your metabolism. Control is the key, knowledge if what you ingest is very important. Don't rely on lables and advertising, these will lead you astray.Hi there I'm new to this, haven't been diagnosed officially yet but my fasting glucose levels were 7.5 so am awaiting my next results to confirm my status.
I have been controlling my levels with diet and exercise however... running and eating low carb
I was hoping to use a protein shake to lose the weight and get into shape
And was wondering if anyone has a good recommendation for me ... I'm female btw ! Thanking you all in advance this site has been a God send for me x
Just in case you have not seen the Starter Pack of info, I am tagging @daisy1 I asked my Holland & Barrett manager what he would advise for a diabetic trying low carb, and he was adamant that fitness products such as protein shakes, whey products and nutri bars were not suitable and could be harmful, I left empty handed since we could not find a single product that I could usefully use. Even their peanuts had been doctored.Hi there I'm new to this, haven't been diagnosed officially yet but my fasting glucose levels were 7.5 so am awaiting my next results to confirm my status.
I have been controlling my levels with diet and exercise however... running and eating low carb
I was hoping to use a protein shake to lose the weight and get into shape
And was wondering if anyone has a good recommendation for me ... I'm female btw ! Thanking you all in advance this site has been a God send for me x
Don't trust protein shakes as you do not know what is in their make up. You are a diabetic, so you need to know what you are consuming and how it responds to your metabolism. Control is the key, knowledge if what you ingest is very important. Don't rely on lables and advertising, these will lead you astray.
Just in case you have not seen the Starter Pack of info, I am tagging @daisy1 I asked my Holland & Barrett manager what he would advise for a diabetic trying low carb, and he was adamant that fitness products such as protein shakes, whey products and nutri bars were not suitable and could be harmful, I left empty handed since we could not find a single product that I could usefully use. Even their peanuts had been doctored.
Too much protein can be harmful and cause damage to the kidneys, The diet I am on (LCHF) recommends a moderate protein intake of around 1 gm per 1kg body weight per day. Note that protein is similar to carbs in that it can increase the blood glucose levels but at a slower rate. It can give surprise sugar bumps some time after a meal has been eaten if it is high protein.
It seems counter-intuitive that the LCHF diet uses fat intake as a means of controlling weight since it does not increase bgl. I would suggest that a bit of research into LCHF as the success stories being reported support this diet for A) controlling BGL, and B) weight loss/ fat reduction.
sounds bloody nice . i have avocardo didnt like them now i find it nice good for burning belly fat .I blend an avocardo a handful of almonds ( or almond flour) peanut butter ( tablespoon or less) +, adding a few drops of vanilla essense a packet of stevia sweetning , cream ( 1/4 cup) + water (3/4 pint ) and a small handful of berries. It does not affect my blood glucose levels and is delicious. I've tried variations on this and all are good, even just the blended almonds and water which is where I started as I wanted a sugar free almond milk. Re peanut butter, you do have to read the labels very carefully,! Asda sell one which is 100% peanuts, most have sugar , salt , palm fat etc which I avoid.
Only change when you have researched it well, and understand the 'mechanics' behind it. I took a while to get comfortable with the science before I entered my new lifestyle, and I have been doing it solidly for over 2 years now ( XMAS and Easter Bunny Time exempted)Thanks for your help this is all extremely confusing but you have persuaded me to stay away from the shakes and change my diet
Thanks for your help as I say I'm completely uncoached until I get to my appointment next week
From my own experience a couple of eggs, scrambled, a bit of grated cheese and a small tomato finely sliced - with a pinch of salt in this hot weather, are a much beter option for weight loss.
It might take a while to take effect due to the metabolic changes associated with diabetes, but low carb is a very effective way to lose weight - it is the only way of eating which keeps my weight from increasing, but it also alters my shape - my waist is getting smaller and smaller and I keep having to buy new clothes or dig out clothes I grew out of.
Don't trust protein shakes as you do not know what is in their make up. You are a diabetic, so you need to know what you are consuming and how it responds to your metabolism. Control is the key, knowledge if what you ingest is very important. Don't rely on lables and advertising, these will lead you astray.
I plan to knit a jersey with 'Dr Atkins was right' on the back - in a Medium size. I have dropped from XXL to L in 6 months, so it should not be long before I'll need itSounds good to me, I was on the Atkins several years ago (very similar) people told us how bad it was so I came off it... wish I hadn't listened I would be in my loft wardrobe by now
Thanks for your help
Advos are the best but you have to buy them a few days in advance and ripen them up a bit first, even the "ready to eat" ones taste better with a few extra days at homesounds bloody nice . i have avocardo didnt like them now i find it nice good for burning belly fat .
I plan to knit a jersey with 'Dr Atkins was right' on the back - in a Medium size. I have dropped from XXL to L in 6 months, so it should not be long before I'll need it
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Hello Jayne and welcome to the ForumHere is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.
BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS
Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.
A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.
On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.
The role of carbohydrate
Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.
If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.
The bad news
Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.
The good news
People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.
Controlling your carbs
The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
Reduce your carbohydrates
- Reduce your carbohydrate intake
- Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.
The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.
Choosing better carbohydrates
The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.
Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.
Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.
Eating what works for you
Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.
To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.
The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:
Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
- Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.
- Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
- 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
- structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
- self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education
Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.
You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.
Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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