Red Bulls and Diabetes

daddys1 · Jan 19, 2015

RAYpi777 said:
actually my numbers have been good in am (124) b4 i eat anything.... and after I take my meds, I recheck and it drops to around 90 and if I don't eat, on down to 70....thats when I get dizzy. when I don't follow procedure, its been up to 189 before....very rarely though.

Hi Ray, Not really sure how you are testing.

The only way you can test, and particular when you take the red bull, is test before eating or if your just having the red bull, just before drinking.

Normally people on here would test just before eating, then some do 1 hr and then most do 2 hrs, and they expect that the difference between the starting figure does not rise by more than 2mmol/L Like 126 to 148mg/dl The 148 is a little high but I think you may be spiking higher than that.

Because it's liquid I would suggest you do a test 1/2 hour after drinking and then 1 hour and then 1 1/2 hours then 2 hours you should be back down.

I imagine you are spiking very early after drinking the red bull, try it see what happens

Neil Edit Please let us know

Mike d · Jan 19, 2015

Don't assume metfrmin is working the wonders I believe you think it is. Yes, it does make a difference but it's moderate at best.

What is your HB1AC if I may ask? I don't understand those other figures either.

Mike

britincali · Jan 19, 2015

RAYpi777 said:
wowwww!

Yup it was brutal, I honestly can't believe I got through it without a heart attack!!! Mega money though I paid off my first house by 30, still have 5 very nice watches and have owned some very tasty cars through the years.

I'm now make hardly any money, I'm living in a chalet and driving a 12 year old car but have an awesome newborn boy and get to spend time with my wife and him every day.

I went from Toyota financial executive to running our own campsite and pub in North Wales www.llwyn-ffynnon.co.uk

RAYpi777 · Jan 19, 2015

daddys1 said:
Hi Ray, Not really sure how you are testing.

The only way you can test, and particular when you take the red bull, is test before eating or if your just having the red bull, just before drinking.

Normally people on here would test just before eating, then some do 1 hr and then most do 2 hrs, and they expect that the difference between the starting figure does not rise by more than 2mmol/L Like 126 to 148mg/dl The 148 is a little high but I think you may be spiking higher than that.

Because it's liquid I would suggest you do a test 1/2 hour after drinking and then 1 hour and then 1 1/2 hours then 2 hours you should be back down.

I imagine you are spiking very early after drinking the red bull, try it see what happens

Neil Edit Please let us know

10/4...thanks, will do in am...I'm here in Dallas TX.....so you know what they say about doing things big in Texas.....later

RAYpi777 · Jan 19, 2015

britincali said:
Yup it was brutal, I honestly can't believe I got through it without a heart attack!!! Mega money though I paid off my first house by 30, still have 5 very nice watches and have owned some very tasty cars through the years.

I'm now make hardly any money, I'm living in a chalet and driving a 12 year old car but have an awesome newborn boy and get to spend time with my wife and him every day.

I went from Toyota financial executive to running our own campsite and pub in North Wales www.llwyn-ffynnon.co.uk

your child alone is worth the sacrafice...I'm a truck driver....I eat wrong...poor sleep paterns.....on an on but.......looking for a better day.

daddys1 · Jan 19, 2015

Mike D said:
Don't assume metfrmin is working the wonders I believe you think it is. Yes, it does make a difference but it's moderate at best.

What is your HB1AC if I may ask? I don't understand those other figures either.

Mike

Yes meant to say, I agree with Mike the metformin will only account for a very small amount of you diabetes control don't rely on the meds, testing & diet is the answer with some exercise.
Wait to hear from you, good luck
Neil

Mike d · Jan 19, 2015

Just did the conversions on those numbers from US to UK. I'm amazed to be quite honest.

britincali · Jan 19, 2015

RAYpi777 said:
your child alone is worth the sacrafice...I'm a truck driver....I eat wrong...poor sleep paterns.....on an on but.......looking for a better day.

Absolutely 100% agreed. I've been married for 17 years and we've been trying for the last 10 years with nothing but one miscarriage to show for it.

Me and my wife gave up our jobs and came home from California to chill out and have kids, after 2 years back here we have our awesome little baby hunter! I'd gladly trade all the money in the world for him

RAYpi777 · Jan 19, 2015

Mike D said:
Don't assume metfrmin is working the wonders I believe you think it is. Yes, it does make a difference but it's moderate at best.

What is your HB1AC if I may ask? I don't understand those other figures either.

Mike

6.7 last time I saw doc....I'm a veteran so I have to see doc's there...but he did not give me the numbers last time...and I forgot to ask....its all on computer now......you have to request through patient privacy to to get a print out.....I now have private insurance so will be seeing a civilian doc next week.

RAYpi777 · Jan 19, 2015

britincali said:
Absolutely 100% agreed. I've been married for 17 years and we've been trying for the last 10 years with nothing but one miscarriage to show for it.

Me and my wife gave up our jobs and came home from California to chill out and have kids, after 2 years back here we have our awesome little baby hunter! I'd gladly trade all the money in the world for him

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what a handsome little fellow....I'm a grand pa....she just turned 6......and I love her to pieces so I know the feeling...I feel like she is my very own though cause we go out to breakfast almost every saturday am. Grandma and I spoil her rotten....thats our job...thats what we do...heheheh

britincali · Jan 19, 2015

I've never felt love like it Ray, I love my wife, I've loved toys and cars but nothing comes close to this little poo producing screaming little pile of awesomeness !!!

Mike d · Jan 19, 2015

RAYpi777 said:
6.7 last time I saw doc....I'm a veteran so I have to see doc's there...but he did not give me the numbers last time...and I forgot to ask....its all on computer now......you have to request through patient privacy to to get a print out.....I now have private insurance so will be seeing a civilian doc next week.

Understood. I was expecting something FAR worse than what it actually is. Where are you from in the states?

RAYpi777 · Jan 19, 2015

daddys1 said:
Yes meant to say, I agree with Mike the metformin will only account for a very small amount of you diabetes control don't rely on the meds, testing & diet is the answer with some exercise.
Wait to hear from you, good luck
Neil

6.7 on HB1AC....cholesterol is high....not sure of them.....I'm 59, been officially diabetic for 8 years...before that every doc would say after my labs: Are you diabetic......I would say well, not one said I am till 2007...even though it has killed about half of my family...type 1.
I'm seriously going to get on top of this.....I crave sugar like crazy though since I quit drinking.....I never could hold my booze though.

RAYpi777 · Jan 19, 2015

britincali said:
I've never felt love like it Ray, I love my wife, I've loved toys and cars but nothing comes close to this little poo producing screaming little pile of awesomeness !!!View attachment 10949

haaaaaa....how cool....babies are the cats....I love little kids.....2-4 is my most favorite years....remember art linkletter when he would do the show "kids say the darndest things"?? and they do.

britincali · Jan 19, 2015

My sugar cravings are going now, Im used to black coffee and no desserts, it took a good couple of months before the cravings subsided though.

Full fat coke was and is still one of most missed things, I would drink gallons of the stuff a month, coke zero even though close just doesn't cut it

I can't see me ever quitting drinking, I love my booze

Mike d · Jan 19, 2015

RAYpi777 said:
6.7 on HB1AC....cholesterol is high....not sure of them.....I'm 59, been officially diabetic for 8 years...before that every doc would say after my labs: Are you diabetic......I would say well, not one said I am till 2007...even though it has killed about half of my family...type 1.
I'm seriously going to get on top of this.....I crave sugar like crazy though since I quit drinking.....I never could hold my booze though.

Tried some red wine? Won't raise your BS .... and like your resolve. Sorry about your losses by the way. Not good but it seems to have stirred you up a bit. Mike

RAYpi777 · Jan 19, 2015

Mike D said:
Understood. I was expecting something FAR worse than what it actually is. Where are you from in the states?

Dallas TX

britincali · Jan 19, 2015

I can and do drink a couple of bottles of red wine with no affect on my sugars, I'm soooooo glad

Here's fridays numbers, I had a bit of a let loose, 4 pints of Carlsberg and two bottles of chianti between 4pm and 11pm...

Mike d · Jan 19, 2015

Nice place .... bit hot for me but I enjoyed it

RAYpi777 · Jan 19, 2015

Mike D said:
Tried some red wine? Won't raise your BS .... and like your resolve. Sorry about your losses by the way. Not good but it seems to have stirred you up a bit. Mike

britincali said:
My sugar cravings are going now, Im used to black coffee and no desserts, it took a good couple of months before the cravings subsided though.

Full fat coke was and is still one of most missed things, I would drink gallons of the stuff a month, coke zero even though close just doesn't cut it

I can't see me ever quitting drinking, I love my booze

I have all but quit sodas...except COKE ZERO....hahahah...but you know, I am now vwery sensitive to caffeine after 2 pm.......I toss and turn till around 1-2 am then have to get up and drive all day...so I really watch chocolate sodas and no bulls after 11 am.....I will make it tomorrow without a bull....read my lips no more bull....hahaha

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