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scurvy making a come back

I have a strong suspicion that if a dietitian (or anyone else) wanted to prove a nutritional point - any point - that they could find examples of it if they searched hard enough and then they could twist that sample to prove whatever point it is that they feel necessary to annoy the rest of us with.

I once had a DN once tell me (after me saying that I low carb) that the tomato sauce on top of a pizza contains substances that are very good for me - which might possibly be true but is definitely outweighed by the effect all the carbs in a pizza would have on me.
 
Chook said:
I have a strong suspicion that if a dietitian (or anyone else) wanted to prove a nutritional point - any point - that they could find examples of it if they searched hard enough and then they could twist that sample to prove whatever point it is that they feel necessary to annoy the rest of us with.

I once had a DN once tell me (after me saying that I low carb) that the tomato sauce on top of a pizza contains substances that are very good for me - which might possibly be true but is definitely outweighed by the effect all the carbs in a pizza would have on me.
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People are always so concerned about leaving fruit out of a diet.
But vegetables have various vitamins as well.
And technically a tomato is a fruit. I'm very fortunate that they don't raise my BG.
 
Mep said:
On our news today they reported about how people are being tested for scurvy and results coming back positive. It's due to lack of vitamin C. But in the report they referred to type 2 diabetics getting the disease because they haven't been eating fruits and veg with vitamin C in their diets. Interesting.

Here's the link to the ABC website report:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-...e-condition-of-scurvy-among-diabetics/8073136
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A doctor I used to see once warned me about taking vit c tablets as it might affect my kidneys as he was writing a script for lipitor (another story for a different forum). I wonder what his thoughts are regarding this thread.o_O
 
Doriand said:
A doctor I used to see once warned me about taking vit c tablets as it might affect my kidneys as he was writing a script for lipitor (another story for a different forum). I wonder what his thoughts are regarding this thread.o_O
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Oh, I'm on lipitor as well. But I think maybe taking a vitamin C tab every now and again and not everyday may be the way to go. But really only needed if you can't eat any or enough vitamin C rich foods. My choices of vitamin C foods are quite limited as I can't have any citrus and a lot of other fruits. I can't most tomatoes, only the real small ones like cherry and grape as they're not acidic. I can eat red capsicum thankfully which is high in vitamin C, but I have to cook it well.
 
I do eat Sauerkraut on occasion as it is high in vitamin C and is supposed to have other health benefits also.
 
Mep said:
Oh, I'm on lipitor as well. But I think maybe taking a vitamin C tab every now and again and not everyday may be the way to go. But really only needed if you can't eat any or enough vitamin C rich foods. My choices of vitamin C foods are quite limited as I can't have any citrus and a lot of other fruits. I can't most tomatoes, only the real small ones like cherry and grape as they're not acidic. I can eat red capsicum thankfully which is high in vitamin C, but I have to cook it well.
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I don't eat any vitamin C rich foods, nor do I take vitamin C pills. If you are avoiding carbs, vitamin C supplementation is not necessary. The people in the article with vitamin C deficiency had a diet of mostly junk food (i.e. lots of refined carbs).
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
I don't eat any vitamin C rich foods, nor do I take vitamin C pills. If you are avoiding carbs, vitamin C supplementation is not necessary. The people in the article with vitamin C deficiency had a diet of mostly junk food (i.e. lots of refined carbs).
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I'm not doing LCHF diet. And there was only one person that was interviewed that had a junk food diet, they didn't mention that the others in the study only ate junk food. They're saying that they're eating not enough vitamin C foods though because they found they were deficient in it. :)
 
Mep said:
I'm not doing LCHF diet. And there was only one person that was interviewed that had a junk food diet, they didn't mention that the others in the study only ate junk food. They're saying that they're eating not enough vitamin C foods though because they found they were deficient in it. :)
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Yes, I see now that the problem was also overcooking their veg. But if you are eating a refined carbs, then yes, you need vitamin C in your diet as well. Otherwise, you don't.
 
Brunneria said:
So, that report is blow to low carb diets then?

I would be very interested to find out what Vit C levels were found in a cross section of the population, diabetic or not.

And what Vit C levels were found in a well designed low carb diet (like mine) where I have in excess of the recommended daily amount of veg, on average, often lightly cooked or in salads - including veg and berries which have very high levels of vit C. Of course, I also eat slow cooked stews, but they are not ALL I eat.

Surely EVERYONE knows that a diet (whether low carb or not) should not contain nothing but cooked-to-death veg?
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But underactive thyroid suffers are told to cook their veg well. Not well cooked veg can interfer with thyroid health in sufferers. I think it's a fine line.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
I haven't eaten a fruit or veg in almost a year and a half. No signs of scurvy yet.
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Lets hope you never wound and need to heal quickly. It might be too late. Take a supplement? Not worth the risk. I've learnt that the hard way.
 
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