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Glad to know he rubs it on his knees only .Friend of mine rubs WD 40 on his knees he says it helps his arthritis !
CAROL
I think part of the problem is that although LC diets have been around for a while, the LCHF diet is relatively new on the scene, and has been given the green light only as a result of ONE study that shows that saturated fats are not as unsafe as we had been told by the medical profession for many years now. Only one study so far, and everybody and their aunt is climbing on the LCHF bandwagon. I am one of them. Indeed, in terms of my BGL it does seem to work well, and i am not having the cravings I had on an LC only diet. BUT, I too have concerns that (a) I may be missing out on essential micronutrients, and (b) having had one heart attack, I do not need another one so, am I increasing my risk. I think the jury is (or should be) still out on whether this diet is good for the long term. We have only got about 9 months 'evidence' since the report was published. I understand that there may be evidence that LCHF may increase insulin resistance for T1D's due to the high fat content.
I am not amember of the medical profession, merely a T2D, but I can see why we are at odds with them. I remember the controversy over the Atkins diet, and I have personal knpwledge of a friend who suffered badly from that diet.
Links are:- (You will probably need to cut&paste into your browser).LCHF has been around for over 20 years - a doctor in Sweden (called 'Dr Fat' in the media) went to the block over it, with dieticians and other medical professionals trying to having her disbarred for promoting a dangerous diet. They took her court. They lost. The rest is LCHF history (in Sweden at least!) The medical professionals trying to get her stricken off as a practising doctor lost because of the weight of scientific evidence proving her correct.
As for long term evidence for humanity generally. How is about 2 million years? (For many peoples at any rate.) Check out Volek and Phinney in 'The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living' , chapter 2.
The only insulinemic high-fat food is dairy, to my knowledge (cream for instance, but I don't know the levels involved), and yes - people have very different responses to dairy, optimum health-wise. I don't know the physical dynamic of insulin resistance for T1s - I thought that was the same for both T1 and T2 if one has it? But share all if not.
Links are:- (You will probably need to cut&paste into your browser).
http://www.mendosa.com/The-Fat-of-the-Matter-How-Dietary-Fat-Effects-Blood-Glucose.htm />
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/36/4/810.full />
"Circulating FFA" means plasma triglycerides, I think, which will be reduced on a LCHF diet. No need for big pharma to get involved.From the study '
Dietary Fat Acutely Increases Glucose Concentrations and Insulin Requirements in Patients With Type 1 Diabetes
Implications for carbohydrate-based bolus dose calculation and intensive diabetes management Wolpert, Castillo, Smith, and Steil.
"Dietary fat and free fatty acids (FFAs) are known to impair insulin sensitivity and to enhance hepatic glucose production. Furthermore, pharmacologic interventions that lower FFA levels in nondiabetic and type 2 diabetic individuals lead to both improved insulin sensitivity and glucose tolerance. Studies in patients with type 1 and type 2 diabetes have shown that dietary fat delays gastric emptying, leading to a lag in glucose absorption. Although there has been considerable interest in the role of dietary fat and circulating FFAs in the pathogenesis of type 2 diabetes, relatively little attention has been given to the possible implications of FFA-induced insulin resistance for the treatment of type 1 diabetes. Review of continuous glucose monitoring and food log data from our adult patients with type 1 diabetes led to the observation that, contrary to the current treatment recommendations, higher-fat meals usually require more insulin coverage than lower-fat meals with similar carbohydrate content."
Well, this is out of my league indeed. It's good that you shared this for sure.
All I can say is that yes, indeed - high fat foods in combination with high carbs would affect diabetic folk differently. And non-diabetic folk! High healthy fat in order to be healthy MUST be in a low-carb food environment. Is my understanding. It is what our bodies are geared for apparently. Some deal with a gear shift differently and without their organs hitting the alert and breakdown territory, as in we diabetics. But diabetics? T2 at any rate. Our bodies are not handling it (the 'it' being high fat with high carbs.) T1 - out of my area of expertise.
As a T1, it's far more complex than just fats slowing down carb ingestion. We also have to take into account protein effects and there is also a side effect with fats that results in an accelerant effect with fat and carbs. As a result, working out how it all works is painful. The polish pump method goes into a lot more detail looking at how to bolus for carbs, protein and fat, and is really effective, if tricky to get your head around.I have a friend who is T1D on a pump, and he struggles with fat content of his diet. He carb counts so he can adjust his insulin, but he only allows for carbs, and no one has taught him how to adjust his bolus for fat content.
Thank you Tim. Unfortunately my friend does not have access to the internet. I will try to extract the relevent info and print it out.As a T1, it's far more complex than just fats slowing down carb ingestion. We also have to take into account protein effects and there is also a side effect with fats that results in an accelerant effect with fat and carbs. As a result, working out how it all works is painful. The polish pump method goes into a lot more detail looking at how to bolus for carbs, protein and fat, and is really effective, if tricky to get your head around.
It's probably worth pointing him at this site, as there is a lot of discussion on this issue in the T1 and pump forums.
This is probably the best study I've seen of the phenomenon, and even it doesn't have the greatest population. http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/36/12/3897.long
All through my early years I was raised on full fat Jersey milk, and bacon and bread and dripping. Loved it !!! We had generation of farmers in my bloodline who thrived to a good old age on that type of diet, My father passed away earlier this year at the age of 94, and he led a very active and fit life up to his sudden illness. I have for several years now fought my family to remove marge from our diet, so I am happy to embrace HF. But I do need to assess the risks before I fully endorse HF for others. I will be having my blood panel taken next week, so will see how my lipids compare to when I started LCHF. I will try to come back and report the outcome. I need HF because I do not need to lose any more weight
Friend of mine rubs WD 40 on his knees he says it helps his arthritis !
CAROL
Okay so in the thread here I posted about how I managed to get my HBa1c down from 10.6 to 6.9 in three months. i've just got back from seeing the diabetes nurse who basically spent the last 5 minutes of the appointment all but making me stand and face the corner If I wanted to be treated like a littler kid I could back in time not go and see a nurse who yes thinks its great that my figures have come down and thinks its great that I've lost two stone in three months until she finds out how I've lost it and all of a sudden its not healthy I should see a doctor I should be taking my metformin and blah blah blah blah. if it was healthy for me to lose the weight, no matter how I lose it then its still healthy and no, I've not been that extreme I've just been following a LCHF diet fair enough I've only been eating once a day but I've always only eaten once a day so wheres the harm in that.
But no all of a sudden I'm staving, myself I need to increase my carbs as foods containing carbs also contain other necessary vitamins etc etc.
I'm beyond fuming right now I want from a high for the 1st time in months (I suffer severe depression) to wanting to seriously do someone some serious harm with a wood chipper and a can of WD40.
I've also just recieved a letter about my P.I.P I've got to see a health consultant this day just keeps getting better and better..... <thats a lame attempt at sarcam
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