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Severe Hypo's on a Plane?

SmileyB4

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Type of diabetes
Type 1
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Hi All,

I was wondering if anyone had had a severe hypo while flying? I recently visited family in Australia and went into convulsions while crossing the Indian ocean.

I have flown all over the world with no problems, but I've also always flown with someone. I've heard of stories that people have had hypo's and no one was able to help in time..... It's always scared me.

Anyway, my Mum chose to accompany me and my daughter, but Qantus chose to separate us. I explained to over 7 different people that it was important my Mum sat with me..... but each time I was ignored. By the time I sat down in my seat, I knew there was no hope, but I felt it should be fine.... everyone had told me it was impossible.... even though we had booked seats together!!! My mother (bless her) threw a wobbly when she was seated upstairs (that's how far away she was from me), but again, she was told it couldn't be done.

I did go into convulsions, my worst nightmare..... my daughter was woken and shouted 'help Mummy she needs sugar'. But by the time the air steward came, they found my Mum and my Mum managed to get me the glucogon (helped by 2 doctors), I had lost consciousness and had been 'out' for half an hour.

I am really angry that this should've happened. It made the first week of my stay in Australia awful. I was so ill. When the plane landed, the staff of Qantus were so rude! I asked for a wheel chair because I had been throwing up and had been given tablets to help with the sickness and head aches. But was refused. I could barely walk and collapsed in tears. No one came to help! All the Qantus staff had walked past me (including the captain). Eventually my mother went to get help and left me on my own. One Qantus staff member came and told me she would only take ME through passport control, I wasn't able to take my daughter with me, she had to go through with my Mum.

For those of you who don't know me, I am a 40 year old woman and consider myself slim and healthy. I have been type 1 diabetic since the age of 10 years. My daughter has a severe disability which has left her unable to be in school. You can understand why I was so upset that she wasn't able to come with me through passport control.

I have complained to Qantus and have also written to 'The Independant' and another Australian travel program. Qantus hasn't apologized and no one has even acknowledged what had happened. If my mother had sat with me, she couldn't helped me when the convulsions first started, but to have left it for 30 minutes.... I don't think people realize how serious a hypo can be? I could've lost my life.

Sorry for the waffle.... but has anyone had similar treatment when they've been ill? I feel everyone thinks it was all my fault and if I looked after myself it wouldn't have happened. My blood was 8.2 before I fell asleep...... My HbA1c and not been higher than 7.5% for the last 13 years. It was 6.8% in January.

Just needed to share with people who understood.....
Thanks for listening!
Tx
 
That is such a rubbish load of support you got from Qantus. Absolutely terrible behaviour. I would make sure I would never travel with them again and make sure I ould get as many people not to as well. These companies only ever care when it is their share price that is being threatened
 
Hi,

Sorry to read about the bad customer care Qantus gave you & your family..

May i ask do you use an insulin pump??
 
Absolutely shocking! Glad you were ok! Can you not sue?
 
Hi,

Sorry to read about the bad customer care Qantus gave you & your family..

May i ask do you use an insulin pump??

Yes, I do. I think that might have been the problem.... time zone changes and eating time changes too...
But I've travelled to Australia before with the pump, to the Maldives and to South Africa.

Funny, when I travelled to South Africa, my husband and I were separated with BA. My husband complained and they upgraded us to business class. Just shows you..... BA took it seriously!
 
Absolutely shocking! Glad you were ok! Can you not sue?

Scandichic, no one will take this seriously. TBH, I haven't been left with permanent damage or anything, just livid with it all! x
 

OK, i'm not a pumper myself. I'm old school T1.. But the insulin expands at altitude.. You may have had an overdose of your set unit rate?? There are threads on here about it..
 
Well have you tried ringing? I would not let this go! Get militant!
 
lt sounds horrendous what a total load of f***wits in your case l wonder about being able to sue the pants off them. l would also look to spread the word via the media about how they treat disabled people.
 
Hi. You may want to get a 'friend' to send the story to a national newspaper. They might just want a human interest story and then Quantas would be forced to apologise and learn from a very sad incident
 
l would also contact the CAA who regulate as it was a very serious breach of airline safety and rules on carers. And ABTA also the airline section whos initals l can not think of but will be on quantas site. Your treatment l am pretty certain broke all international airline disabled passanger regulations.
 
OK, i'm not a pumper myself. I'm old school T1.. But the insulin expands at altitude.. You may have had an overdose of your set unit rate?? There are threads on here about it..
liquids don't expand/contract very much with pressure, milk for example has soemthing like 1% compressibility at 3000 ps (around 200 atmospheres) if I remember correctly from my undergrad days.

I do womder though whether the lower pressure affected delivery rate, which is a diferent thing, or even afected the BG reading?

That does not excuse Qantas' response though, it doesn't take much to get a dose wrong enough to cause a hypo, adn most cabin staff should be aware of it.
 
I would probably tweet the airline hashtag-ing as many diabetes groups as possible. Create a media shitstorm for them that they can't get away from. You were treated disgustingly


Type 1 diagnosed 1990
HBa1c current 8.3
Pump and CGM used (animas vibe)
 
What I cannot understand is why they simply didn't move other passengers or ask someone to swap, explaining why. We are a family of 4 but we certainly would have split into 2 2s and on 2 occasions people have swapped with us so that I could sit with one of our children and my husband with the other. Their behaviour and attitude once you landed defies explanation and I still think there must be grounds for legal action. You say you have not been affected but what about your daughter? How distressing for your mum too. Would you want to make the journey again?
 
Thanks for you good ideas and kind responses. Would I want to do the journey again? I struggled to fly home after the trip. Thankfully we flew Emirates home, they were brilliant and we were kept together.... as we had originally booked! Emirates also allowed me to carry a bottle of Lucozade on the plane. WOW!

After my hypo, one of the doctors that had helped was quite adamant my Mum needed to sit with me for the rest of the journey...... Guess what? They rearranged the passengers and my Mum DID sit next to me for the rest of the journey. Apparently (according to my Mum, I wasn't fully functional to notice) there was only one passenger that was inconvenienced by having to change her seat. The chap sitting next to me was so pleased because he had also been separated from his family. It was certainly not a big deal to change and it made a few people a lot happier!

I think I would've just shrugged my shoulders and thought 'well, I'll never fly Qantas again' if it was just the hypo that had happened. I think it was nothing short of humiliating, extremely terrifying and the feeling of being so vulnerable when we got off the plane and I was refused help. For those of you who have had convulsions.... you can understand how scared you feel afterwards. I am very protective of my daughter and I couldn't support her. I was sobbing so much I was surprised the airport security didn't come and check that I wasn't carrying anything illegal.

I am hoping Diabetes UK can do an article. One thing I did learn was that it was a blessing I carried my glucogon with me on the plane. I was told when I came round that they were not allowed to use the plane's glucogon without permission from the ground staff???????? Not sure who they had to radio first, but I don't think I would be here today if they had to do that first.

I'll let you all know what happens. You've given me new inspiration to do something about it. Any more ideas I'm only too willing to hear.
Thanks so much again.
Txx
 
Emirates also allowed me to carry a bottle of Lucozade on the plane. WOW!

That's interesting to know.. Because airport security have mistaken my pack of Mars Bars for explosives before now..!! LOL

I wish you best of luck following up on your complaint with Qantas..!
 
It's is just not on, what about your health and safety, sorry you had such an awful time..
Hope you get somewhere with this....
We all need support at times ......do people ever really understand ....:/
 
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