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Should I be concerned?

Beshlie

Beshlie

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Type of diabetes
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Hi, I am T2 and recently been passing rather a lot of water and feeling more thirsty. Also, this afternoon my BG went down to 4 and I felt slightly 'drunk' and my eyesight is a bit fuzzy. I have just ate a Jaffa cake and am waiting to feel more 'normal' so I can make tea! Should I be concerned?
 
Hi Beshlie

How are you currently managing your diabetes? Are you on medication?

Regards

Doug
 
Hi Doug,
I'm on Metformin SR, plus lower carb diet, and have to eat low fat.

B
 
Excessive urination is a symptom of high blood sugars.

If you have been having higher blood sugars for a while and it suddenly slumps to 4 then your body will have hypo symptoms.

Your body will get used to normal blood sugars, but if it continues you will need to go back to the Dr's and maybe be able to reduce your medication.
 
why low fat? you need to make up the lost calories from reduced carb with fat
as Karen said, it's your body getting use to more normal sugar levels, you won't hypo on metformin, it needs to be insulin or a couple of the tabs that increase insulin that can cause hypo
If/when your BG gets low your liver will dump sugar
 
Karen.G. said:
Excessive urination is a symptom of high blood sugars.

If you have been having higher blood sugars for a while and it suddenly slumps to 4 then your body will have hypo symptoms.

Your body will get used to normal blood sugars, but if it continues you will need to go back to the Dr's and maybe be able to reduce your medication.
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Thank you, Karen.
 
jack412 said:
why low fat? you need to make up the lost calories from reduced carb with fat
as Karen said, it's your body getting use to more normal sugar levels, you won't hypo on metformin, it needs to be insulin or a couple of the tabs that increase insulin that can cause hypo
If/when your BG gets low your liver will dump sugar
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I'm low fat because since my gall bladder was removed I can't tolerate much fat, but I have bumped up the protein.

B
 
jack412 said:
why low fat? you need to make up the lost calories from reduced carb with fat
as Karen said, it's your body getting use to more normal sugar levels, you won't hypo on metformin, it needs to be insulin or a couple of the tabs that increase insulin that can cause hypo
If/when your BG gets low your liver will dump sugar
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Hate to tell you this but I had the same deal as Beshlie yesterday and the NHS helpline sent the paramedics out. 'Twas indeed a hypo - down to 3. So although it's unusual, you can have a hypo on metformin. Was very thirsty, bs up to 9 , felt dizzy and disorientated even though drinking loads of water. Bs then rocketed downwards to 3. Beshlie, I was told to take at tsp of honey and it did work. Felt **** for 3 hours afterwards. Hope you are not on your own. Please get advice now. My dn and doc think I might need to take less metformin - this might be you too! Take carex
 
you're right, it is possible
Metformin does not produce hypoglycemia in either patients with type 2 diabetes or normal subjects (except in special circumstances, see PRECAUTIONS)
Hypoglycemia does not occur in patients receiving Metformin alone under usual circumstances of use, but could occur when caloric intake is deficient, when strenuous exercise is not compensated by caloric supplementation, or during concomitant use with other glucose-lowering agents (such as sulfonylureas and insulin) or ethanol.

Elderly, debilitated or malnourished patients, and those with adrenal or pituitary insufficiency or alcohol intoxication are particularly susceptible to hypoglycemic effects. Hypoglycemia may be difficult to recognize in the elderly, and in people who are taking beta-adrenergic blocking drugs
 
Beshlie said:
I'm low fat because since my gall bladder was removed I can't tolerate much fat, but I have bumped up the protein.

B
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Have you tried bile salts or pancreatic enzymes to help? I've heard good reports about bile salts to help support fat digestion after gallbladder removal.
 
jack412 said:
you're right, it is possible
Metformin does not produce hypoglycemia in either patients with type 2 diabetes or normal subjects (except in special circumstances, see PRECAUTIONS)
Hypoglycemia does not occur in patients receiving Metformin alone under usual circumstances of use, but could occur when caloric intake is deficient, when strenuous exercise is not compensated by caloric supplementation, or during concomitant use with other glucose-lowering agents (such as sulfonylureas and insulin) or ethanol.

Elderly, debilitated or malnourished patients, and those with adrenal or pituitary insufficiency or alcohol intoxication are particularly susceptible to hypoglycemic effects. Hypoglycemia may be difficult to recognize in the elderly, and in people who are taking beta-adrenergic blocking drugs
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So are you saying that I am not normal?
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Indy51 said:
Have you tried bile salts or pancreatic enzymes to help? I've heard good reports about bile salts to help support fat digestion after gallbladder removal.
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Thank you Indy, I will look into those. I don't seem to digest fat, if you know what I mean!
 
jack412 said:
We're all special here, it's just that some are even more 'special' if you get my drift:confused::confused:

perhaps if you slowly increase the fat too? evenly distribute it over the day, so as not to get a big one off hit

Trans fat is still bad, but saturated fat has been given a tick, so dump the margarine and get some butter
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=satuated fat&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=Jvs_U8TTEs3C8gfrvYDYDw#channel=sb&q=saturated fat&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=nws
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Thank you for the link, Jack.
 
Beshlie said:
Thank you for the link, Jack.
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the general google link is getting old

http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638
Conclusion: Current evidence does not clearly support cardiovascular guidelines that encourage high consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids and low consumption of total saturated fats.



http://www.crd.york.ac.uk/crdweb/ShowRecord.asp?LinkFrom=OAI&ID=12014019479
Results of the review
Generally, there was no evidence of publication bias.
Authors' conclusions
The evidence did not clearly support cardiovascular guidelines that encouraged high consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids and low consumption of total saturated fats.
 
jack412 said:
the general google link is getting old

http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638
Conclusion: Current evidence does not clearly support cardiovascular guidelines that encourage high consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids and low consumption of total saturated fats.



http://www.crd.york.ac.uk/crdweb/ShowRecord.asp?LinkFrom=OAI&ID=12014019479
Results of the review
Generally, there was no evidence of publication bias.
Authors' conclusions
The evidence did not clearly support cardiovascular guidelines that encouraged high consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids and low consumption of total saturated fats.
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The fats I eat are chicken, fish - all types including salmon, olive oil, some butter (not much) and small amount of cheddar cheese over salad. Never eat fried food or add fat to anything. One egg occasionally.
 
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