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<blockquote data-quote="AndBreathe" data-source="post: 870414" data-attributes="member: 88961"><p>To be honest, I really do think you have a lot of thinking to do here. You have a number of issues at the moment and are looking for a single solution, which I don't necessarily think is readily achievable. In no particular order:</p><p></p><p>You are a bit muddled on your diabetes priorities. For most people, their blood scores improve as they lose weight, because, generally speaking, insulin resistance improves as weight reduces. But, in terms of controlling the blood scores the most important and consistent thing to achieve that is what we put into our mouths. I'm not talking calories, I'm talking components, and for most of us that means fewer carbs. My concerns about your "diverting" to a carb heavier diets are two-fold. Firstly carbs are addictive, and many people comment that as they consume carbs they want more and if you spend 2, 3 or 6 months concentrating on losing weight, but your bloods don't improve then you have to address that and make further changes.</p><p></p><p>I have no idea if you experienced any diabetes symptoms before diagnosis (I was completely asymptomatic), or if you already have any complications, but it is my understanding that most diabetic complications are as a result of elevated blood sugars. I don't know of any diabetes specific complications which are directly wight related. Of course we have a potential chicken and egg thought process we could go through there.</p><p></p><p>So, you can probably guess my take on things as blood scores being primary objective with weight loss highly desireable secondary objective. If you improved your blood scores but didn't lose weight, you would achieve your objective. Conversealy, if you lost weight but didn't improve your bloods your objective would not be achieved. (I don't know if I have expressed that well at all.)</p><p></p><p>Then, you have a child who doesn't like vegetables. This is a separate issue to your diabetes. I am almost reading that everyone is going to eat rice/mash/pasta or whatever so that your little o ne can be duped into eating brocolli or the like? (Extreme expression, I know.) You further state she is beginning to recognize the colours of veg and rooting them out to be ejected, with force, when found. It sounds like hiding veg in carbs is on a limited lifespan now anyway. This issue needs to be separated from <em><strong>your</strong></em> diet. Whilst I appreciate a mother's love and making sacrifices, it doesn't make sense that you would consider compromising your health to try to get the little one to eat peas/carrots or whatever. She needs a healthy mother.</p><p></p><p>Please do have a think about meal planning. We have always planned meals, a bit, at home. It helps us with shopping, and ensuring we have the ingredients at home for whatever we plan to eat. To be honest, when I was diagnosed, my OH challenged me with total control of meal planning, so that he couldn't be blamed for ruining my eating plan (method in his madness!!), but once I got into it, it took the pressure off. I knew I would always have something to eat, and I knew we would have the food in for what we had planned. (It does also make a difference, in this house anyway, to food waste and budgets.)</p><p></p><p>We don't plan meals on the basis of Monday = X, Tuesday is Y, then never vary from it. We plan weekly, and plan for seven main meals, then can work our way through those as and when we fancy pork chops, sausage bake, roast chicken or whatever else we have planned. Additionally, with a decent store cupboard, we can always have a quick omellette ro something if we really, really don't fancy something from the plan. If you were to adopt that planning approach, you would be able to ensure you have 7 main meals for you all, with the others having spuds, bread or whatever in addition to your own requirements. Won't you have to plan for Slimming World anyway?</p><p></p><p>I have no idea what pointed foods are, but are they foods you can have freely, or some you can have almost as treats? Which ever it is, couldn't you create a list of those things from reduced carb options? I'm sure you would get loads of ideas if you wanted help with that.</p><p></p><p>Erm,.............. Quite a brain dump from me!</p><p></p><p>For a significant part of my working life, I worked with change, so I do understand all about it. I understand how hard it is to change ourselves, and how much harder it is to encourage others to change.</p><p></p><p>Have a really good think about things. Try to find some time when you can really think things through and plan for whatever you decide to do. Changes made "on the hoof" are much more likely to fall by the wayside than those thought through, planned, executed and reviewed. If you plan through your changes and prepare your "tools" (in this case, probably doing a preparatory shop), it is far easier to see through, and harder to side-step. It's very easy to side step "eating well", if you find yourself making it up as you go and searching the pantry for something suitable to eat 30 minutes before people expect to be fed.</p><p></p><p>I know you want to do the right thing for your little one, but building your family lifestyle around her picky eating isn't aa appropriate way forward, but I'm sur you know that.</p><p></p><p>Clearly I have spoken <strong><em>extremely</em></strong> plainly here, but it is intended to really challenge your thinking so that your decisions are well thought through and reasoned. I'm sure it's not comfortable reading, but my objective isn't to make anyone feel bad. My objective is to almost force rounded thinking. You certainly don't have to share your conclusions. I really do wish you well. These are challenging times for you and your family.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AndBreathe, post: 870414, member: 88961"] To be honest, I really do think you have a lot of thinking to do here. You have a number of issues at the moment and are looking for a single solution, which I don't necessarily think is readily achievable. In no particular order: You are a bit muddled on your diabetes priorities. For most people, their blood scores improve as they lose weight, because, generally speaking, insulin resistance improves as weight reduces. But, in terms of controlling the blood scores the most important and consistent thing to achieve that is what we put into our mouths. I'm not talking calories, I'm talking components, and for most of us that means fewer carbs. My concerns about your "diverting" to a carb heavier diets are two-fold. Firstly carbs are addictive, and many people comment that as they consume carbs they want more and if you spend 2, 3 or 6 months concentrating on losing weight, but your bloods don't improve then you have to address that and make further changes. I have no idea if you experienced any diabetes symptoms before diagnosis (I was completely asymptomatic), or if you already have any complications, but it is my understanding that most diabetic complications are as a result of elevated blood sugars. I don't know of any diabetes specific complications which are directly wight related. Of course we have a potential chicken and egg thought process we could go through there. So, you can probably guess my take on things as blood scores being primary objective with weight loss highly desireable secondary objective. If you improved your blood scores but didn't lose weight, you would achieve your objective. Conversealy, if you lost weight but didn't improve your bloods your objective would not be achieved. (I don't know if I have expressed that well at all.) Then, you have a child who doesn't like vegetables. This is a separate issue to your diabetes. I am almost reading that everyone is going to eat rice/mash/pasta or whatever so that your little o ne can be duped into eating brocolli or the like? (Extreme expression, I know.) You further state she is beginning to recognize the colours of veg and rooting them out to be ejected, with force, when found. It sounds like hiding veg in carbs is on a limited lifespan now anyway. This issue needs to be separated from [I][B]your[/B][/I] diet. Whilst I appreciate a mother's love and making sacrifices, it doesn't make sense that you would consider compromising your health to try to get the little one to eat peas/carrots or whatever. She needs a healthy mother. Please do have a think about meal planning. We have always planned meals, a bit, at home. It helps us with shopping, and ensuring we have the ingredients at home for whatever we plan to eat. To be honest, when I was diagnosed, my OH challenged me with total control of meal planning, so that he couldn't be blamed for ruining my eating plan (method in his madness!!), but once I got into it, it took the pressure off. I knew I would always have something to eat, and I knew we would have the food in for what we had planned. (It does also make a difference, in this house anyway, to food waste and budgets.) We don't plan meals on the basis of Monday = X, Tuesday is Y, then never vary from it. We plan weekly, and plan for seven main meals, then can work our way through those as and when we fancy pork chops, sausage bake, roast chicken or whatever else we have planned. Additionally, with a decent store cupboard, we can always have a quick omellette ro something if we really, really don't fancy something from the plan. If you were to adopt that planning approach, you would be able to ensure you have 7 main meals for you all, with the others having spuds, bread or whatever in addition to your own requirements. Won't you have to plan for Slimming World anyway? I have no idea what pointed foods are, but are they foods you can have freely, or some you can have almost as treats? Which ever it is, couldn't you create a list of those things from reduced carb options? I'm sure you would get loads of ideas if you wanted help with that. Erm,.............. Quite a brain dump from me! For a significant part of my working life, I worked with change, so I do understand all about it. I understand how hard it is to change ourselves, and how much harder it is to encourage others to change. Have a really good think about things. Try to find some time when you can really think things through and plan for whatever you decide to do. Changes made "on the hoof" are much more likely to fall by the wayside than those thought through, planned, executed and reviewed. If you plan through your changes and prepare your "tools" (in this case, probably doing a preparatory shop), it is far easier to see through, and harder to side-step. It's very easy to side step "eating well", if you find yourself making it up as you go and searching the pantry for something suitable to eat 30 minutes before people expect to be fed. I know you want to do the right thing for your little one, but building your family lifestyle around her picky eating isn't aa appropriate way forward, but I'm sur you know that. Clearly I have spoken [B][I]extremely[/I][/B] plainly here, but it is intended to really challenge your thinking so that your decisions are well thought through and reasoned. I'm sure it's not comfortable reading, but my objective isn't to make anyone feel bad. My objective is to almost force rounded thinking. You certainly don't have to share your conclusions. I really do wish you well. These are challenging times for you and your family. [/QUOTE]
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