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This has been enormously confusing, so I'm having a go at posting a thread just about the words used.
Warning - long thread with a lot of words but please try and wade through it.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults
This seems to be the current definitive document which is the source of a lot of confusion.
Firstly, I note that previously there has been a lot of talk about "social isolation" especially for those who are or have recently been infected. Also for over 70s being "quarantined" in the home for 4 months.
This involves not going out at all, avoiding your own family in the home if possible, not having visitors if possible, having groceries delivered. Wash, was, wash.
The above linked document doesn't talk about isolation at all, but only "distancing".
Firstly, the list of those covered is very broad.
Basically anyone who qualifies for a flu jab which includes all diabetics.
So social distancing should apply to us all.
However there is a lot of lack of clarity in the definitions.
However it includes a subset
As far as I can tell there is nothing there which calls out those with T1 diabetes as being more at risk than the global catch all due to a compromised immune system.
I think that T1s are generally at no more risk from a viral infection than others in the list, as I think that the specific immune problem is their body attacking their own pancreas which is a sign of an over active immune system.
There is a link (which I will try and find later) which says that diabetes doesn't increase the risk of viral infection, just the risk of a bacterial infection.
Further:
This advice seems to be applicable to all people in the general population, not just the ones at higher risk.
This emphatically does not tell people in the higher risk category to stay home from work. Just "where possible". So anybody who can't work from home (teachers for example) is still expected to turn in to work as normal.
Going from this document, T1s who teach and are asking if the Government says should stay at home should realise that the answer is "No".
This document is not a basis for a GP to issue a sick note.
It even says:
Just to push the point home, stringent adherence to the advice above includes not travelling during rush hour. It doesn't preclude using public transport.
TL;DR this advice is very wishy washy and as it stands does not provide any basis for not going in to work for even the highest risk categories. It seems aimed at keeping everyone at work.
Warning - long thread with a lot of words but please try and wade through it.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults
This seems to be the current definitive document which is the source of a lot of confusion.
Firstly, I note that previously there has been a lot of talk about "social isolation" especially for those who are or have recently been infected. Also for over 70s being "quarantined" in the home for 4 months.
This involves not going out at all, avoiding your own family in the home if possible, not having visitors if possible, having groceries delivered. Wash, was, wash.
The above linked document doesn't talk about isolation at all, but only "distancing".
Firstly, the list of those covered is very broad.
Basically anyone who qualifies for a flu jab which includes all diabetics.
So social distancing should apply to us all.
However there is a lot of lack of clarity in the definitions.
However it includes a subset
As far as I can tell there is nothing there which calls out those with T1 diabetes as being more at risk than the global catch all due to a compromised immune system.
I think that T1s are generally at no more risk from a viral infection than others in the list, as I think that the specific immune problem is their body attacking their own pancreas which is a sign of an over active immune system.
There is a link (which I will try and find later) which says that diabetes doesn't increase the risk of viral infection, just the risk of a bacterial infection.
Further:
This advice seems to be applicable to all people in the general population, not just the ones at higher risk.
This emphatically does not tell people in the higher risk category to stay home from work. Just "where possible". So anybody who can't work from home (teachers for example) is still expected to turn in to work as normal.
Going from this document, T1s who teach and are asking if the Government says should stay at home should realise that the answer is "No".
This document is not a basis for a GP to issue a sick note.
It even says:
This is a million miles away from social isolation.
Just to push the point home, stringent adherence to the advice above includes not travelling during rush hour. It doesn't preclude using public transport.
TL;DR this advice is very wishy washy and as it stands does not provide any basis for not going in to work for even the highest risk categories. It seems aimed at keeping everyone at work.