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Soup and Shakes diet - NHS

Titch68

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Anyone else heard about this Soup and shake diet on NHS is being expanded?

Anyone on this?

I put it forward to my doctors and my diabetes nurse came back at me saying there was something off about it?!

Is why I'm asking here.
 
Hi @Titch68 . There is info about it here
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about_u...iet-to-help-people-with-type-2-into-remission. There has been a bit of a postcode lottery, qregarding availability, and it does appear to be being used now as a cheap way to reduce the numbers of people with T2 diabetes complications.

Although some people have some success in losing weight and lowering their HbA1c levels, there has been criticism about the advice for after the severe calorie reduction stage. When people return to the standard NHS advice to eat starchy carbohydrates with every meal, they regain weight and start to see increase in blood glucose levels again.

As long as people have a reliable follow on diet plan after the very low calorie phase this can be a kick start to better weight and diabetes control. From my own perspective, I followed the Newcastle diet ( which this soup and shakes is an extension of) when it was still in experimental stage. Lost 49kg and saw non diabetes blood glucose levels for several years following. Unforunately, I was given a follow on plan as standard, and regained some 20kg, which don’t want to be lost again. This is despite me using intermittent fasting , low carb / keto way of eating for the past seven years. I have maintained non-diabetes , or pre-diabetes BG levels until about 2 years ago. I have had T2 for 18 years with no diabetes complications though.

I would advise anyone considering the soup and shake method to make sure they get support of HCP, family and friends, have a follow on plan for after the restrictive calorie phase, and for the latter I would recommend reducing the carbs in their diet.
 
I’d rather have something to chew on :) Although I like soup I wouldn’t want it everyday and I think it would be boring. Plus the very low calorie can be detrimental. If you listen to Dr Jason Fung it’s not the calories that count, our bodies adjust to the calorie deficit and metabolism slowing down starts compensating eg stops hair growth and muscle growth.
 
It's about what suits the individual. I find it better to restrict what I eat rather than how much I eat because hunger really slays me but low-carb/keto really suits me. Others don't suffer hunger pangs or are not concerned about them, so low-cal and easy "meals" fits in with them better.
 
As above, it might be good to kick-start, but you have to find a tolerable long-term change in your eating habits. If you go back to your previous habits, your weight etc. will follow
 
Hi @Titch68 . There is info about it here
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about_u...iet-to-help-people-with-type-2-into-remission. There has been a bit of a postcode lottery, qregarding availability, and it does appear to be being used now as a cheap way to reduce the numbers of people with T2 diabetes complications.

Although some people have some success in losing weight and lowering their HbA1c levels, there has been criticism about the advice for after the severe calorie reduction stage. When people return to the standard NHS advice to eat starchy carbohydrates with every meal, they regain weight and start to see increase in blood glucose levels again.

As long as people have a reliable follow on diet plan after the very low calorie phase this can be a kick start to better weight and diabetes control. From my own perspective, I followed the Newcastle diet ( which this soup and shakes is an extension of) when it was still in experimental stage. Lost 49kg and saw non diabetes blood glucose levels for several years following. Unforunately, I was given a follow on plan as standard, and regained some 20kg, which don’t want to be lost again. This is despite me using intermittent fasting , low carb / keto way of eating for the past seven years. I have maintained non-diabetes , or pre-diabetes BG levels until about 2 years ago. I have had T2 for 18 years with no diabetes complications though.

I would advise anyone considering the soup and shake method to make sure they get support of HCP, family and friends, have a follow on plan for after the restrictive calorie phase, and for the latter I would recommend reducing the carbs in their diet.
Thank you for the reply. You know something you were FASTER at replying than the doctors!
I wanted to know what the problem was as you explained and was left 'hanging in the wind'....
Much appreciated for the explaination. It was here I read about it https://www.england.nhs.uk/2023/04/nhs-to-expand-soups-and-shakes-for-people-with-type-2-diabetes/

Much appreciate the reply.
 
Thank you for the reply. You know something you were FASTER at replying than the doctors!
I wanted to know what the problem was as you explained and was left 'hanging in the wind'....
Much appreciated for the explaination. It was here I read about it https://www.england.nhs.uk/2023/04/nhs-to-expand-soups-and-shakes-for-people-with-type-2-diabetes/

Much appreciate the reply.
Good luck, for whatever route to success you Choose to follow.
Do keep us informed of progress. Really helps members to learn from others’ experiences.
 
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