T@svalentine60 I find veggies on their own too dry too. The good news is that you can put butter on them. Don't be afraid of the calories, just try it. As long as your carbs are low enough the fat will be fine and it will also fill you up so that you don't need to snack or stay hungry.
Ungrateful? Incredibly gracious of you I would have said @svalentine60 ...
Your breakfast seems fine, save for the toast! And believe it or not, if you order a big mac or a big king xl, but ask them to hold the bun... Just end up with the meat, added bacon & cheese, salad and tomatoes, and voila, it *is* low carb. So you can still resort to fast food joints, just don't have the buns with the burgers! (And nix the fries). Have cheese, eggs, olives, nuts, greens, have bacon, have pork scratchings... It's all low carb and won't spike you.Hi,
My diet has been terrible up until a few days ago. I would usually have things like egg, bacon, fried bread etc for breakfast. Or scrambled egg on toast. I was constantly (and still am) hungry within 15 mins of eating no matter how much I'd eaten. I told my doctor i was constantly hungry and never felt full. They said sounded like an eating disorder and i should go to a self help group for it. I didn't think it was a disorder of that kind and literally feel that its my body doing it not my mind. But got no help with that. So the above for breakfast usually. Then i would eat on and off during the day. Nothing to me to have half a packet of digestive chocolate biscuits and a cup of tea. Cream cakes which i get an real urge for. Dinner at around 5pm ish if i can last that long and that will always consist of processed foods like, pies, birds eye prepackaged stuff. A lot of things like spaghetti bolognese or chicken tikka home made with poppadoms and nan bread etc. Often take aways. Chip shop or indian. A really poor diet. The more I ate the hungrier i was. I have often gone to the supermarket and bought a huge bar of chocolate or other sweet things. I've basically ignored being diabetic for years. With that has come such fatigue and depression. I guess a typicals days diet up until wednesday last week would be (And this is embarrassing)
Sausage, egg, tomato, bread and butter for breakfast or scrambled egg on toast
Mid morning would probably find something sweet like biscuits
Lunch could be anything from a sandwich or if i'm out macdonalds, burger king etc
Dinner at around 5pm which could be spaghetti bolognese, curry, processed pies, birds eye stuff etc
Very hungry again by 9pm so would go down and have cheese on toast, sandwich, things like that
I would then often wake in the middle of the night hungry and go down and get yet another snack.
This week I've eaten differently and it has made a difference in my sugars but not by a huge amount. I actually have been taken my sugars for once and writing down what I've eaten but its hard to stick to and on a low income with a student son in the house its difficult for me to buy separate food for myself. Since posting the other day this is what I've eaten and my sugars.
WED 8TH
Weight 12st 7 3/4
Sugars 13.2 on waking. No food all day until 5pm. Before eating took sugars which were at 8.2. But then had pizza.
THURS 9TH
Weight 12st 7
Sugars 11.7 on waking
Sugars 11.2 at 1.30pm with no food all day.
FRID10TH
Weight 12st 6
Didn't take sugars on waking
Sugars 9.9 at 14.23pm just before eating lunch of chicken and kale
Sugars 9.8 two hours after eating.
8pm Very hungry so ate some cheese, sliced ham and one tomato.
10pm Sugars at 8.7
SAT 11TH
Weight 12st 5 1/4
Sugars in morning 9.4
Ate at 1.30pm. Two pieces of white toast buttered with a slice of ham on each
3.30pm sugars gone up to 13.3
4pm Chicken breast and brussell sprouts. (Dry and horrible with no sauces, gravy etc)
Sugars at 8.3 2 hours later.
SUN 12TH
Weight 12st 4 1/2
Sugars 8.7 in morning
1pm sugars 9.9 still not eaten but they've gone up for some reason.
Sugars taken at 1.25pm just before eating 7.4 (Lowest its been in over a year)
1.30pm 2 buttered wholemeal toast. two scrambled eggs and two grilled bacon.
10.3 sugars taken two hours after eating at 3.30pm
(Thats where it has all gone to pot today. I suddenly couldn't stop myself from eating. Nothing sweet in the house thank goodness but was so hungry i ate beans on two slices of toast and 2 corn on the cobs with lots of butter. Now am sat here full of guilt and angry that i've been quite good for days and ruined it with high carbs. )
Thanks for the help.
Hi,
Have finally decided to get involved with the forum because i seem to making a mess of everything while trying to do it alone and have felt embarrassed and a bit ashamed of my spiralling diabetes type 2 and other health problems due to my own actions. I'm 57, divorced and live with my student son whose 22. I was told i had pre-diabetes a few years ago. Maybe around 5 or 6. Doctor just said i was prediabetic and he'd test me again in a year. Didn't say anything else. What i could do etc to stop becoming diabetic and i knew nothing so off i went and continued to have 4 sugars in my tea and high sugar content junk food on a daily basis. Was then diagnosed diabetic a few months later and again not given much info but given 500mg of Metformin to take a day which kept my sugars at a normal level for quite a while. I have had other health and mental health problems for a few years. I have a severe anxiety disorder, hypothyroidism, high blood pressure, high cholesterol etc. My sugars just kept getting higher. I told my diabetic nurse and doctor many times i was struggling. That i felt constantly hungry even directly after i had eaten. That for some reason i couldn't stop eating sweets, chocolate, white bread etc daily. Nothing much was said so each time i came away feeling alone and on a downward spiral. It got worse and worse. My daughter died at xmas 2015 suddenly and my world collapsed and i feel just as bereft today, every minute of every day. My sugars continue to spiral and i would call myself an emotional eater. My sugars are often on average 12 and upwards when i wake up and haven't eaten since dinner the night before. I now take 9 tablets a day consisting of Metformin, Levothyroxine, Ramipril, Beta blockers, Avarstatin, sitagliptin, Amlodipine. I'm only 5ft 3 and should weigh around 9.5 stone. I weight 12st 7. I have tried every diet known to man and last a whole day sometimes. I've been in a lot of pain lately and my doctor thinks it is likely gallstones but of course my anxiety makes it worse. I have pain in the abdomen, swollen stomach and sore stomach a lot, upper back pain etc and am waiting for a scan which is frightening me because my anxiety makes me think it is something far worse (How can gallstones cause so much constant pain in lots of places etc). I decided yesterday to start intermittent fasting after watching a documentary. Lasted all day yesterday until the evening when i had four slices of high fat pizza. Started again today and at 11am went and had pate on two pieces of white toast. So you can see my struggle. I have no idea how to improve my health, how to lower my sugars. Healthy foods that i enjoy are in the main too expensive for me and everyday I am aware that with all my health problems already at my age, that i am unlikely to see old age unless i do something now. Sorry for the ramble but I do feel a bit better having said it all out loud even if it is online x
Hi,
Have finally decided to get involved with the forum because i seem to making a mess of everything while trying to do it alone and have felt embarrassed and a bit ashamed of my spiralling diabetes type 2 and other health problems due to my own actions. I'm 57, divorced and live with my student son whose 22. I was told i had pre-diabetes a few years ago. Maybe around 5 or 6. Doctor just said i was prediabetic and he'd test me again in a year. Didn't say anything else. What i could do etc to stop becoming diabetic and i knew nothing so off i went and continued to have 4 sugars in my tea and high sugar content junk food on a daily basis. Was then diagnosed diabetic a few months later and again not given much info but given 500mg of Metformin to take a day which kept my sugars at a normal level for quite a while. I have had other health and mental health problems for a few years. I have a severe anxiety disorder, hypothyroidism, high blood pressure, high cholesterol etc. My sugars just kept getting higher. I told my diabetic nurse and doctor many times i was struggling. That i felt constantly hungry even directly after i had eaten. That for some reason i couldn't stop eating sweets, chocolate, white bread etc daily. Nothing much was said so each time i came away feeling alone and on a downward spiral. It got worse and worse. My daughter died at xmas 2015 suddenly and my world collapsed and i feel just as bereft today, every minute of every day. My sugars continue to spiral and i would call myself an emotional eater. My sugars are often on average 12 and upwards when i wake up and haven't eaten since dinner the night before. I now take 9 tablets a day consisting of Metformin, Levothyroxine, Ramipril, Beta blockers, Avarstatin, sitagliptin, Amlodipine. I'm only 5ft 3 and should weigh around 9.5 stone. I weight 12st 7. I have tried every diet known to man and last a whole day sometimes. I've been in a lot of pain lately and my doctor thinks it is likely gallstones but of course my anxiety makes it worse. I have pain in the abdomen, swollen stomach and sore stomach a lot, upper back pain etc and am waiting for a scan which is frightening me because my anxiety makes me think it is something far worse (How can gallstones cause so much constant pain in lots of places etc). I decided yesterday to start intermittent fasting after watching a documentary. Lasted all day yesterday until the evening when i had four slices of high fat pizza. Started again today and at 11am went and had pate on two pieces of white toast. So you can see my struggle. I have no idea how to improve my health, how to lower my sugars. Healthy foods that i enjoy are in the main too expensive for me and everyday I am aware that with all my health problems already at my age, that i am unlikely to see old age unless i do something now. Sorry for the ramble but I do feel a bit better having said it all out loud even if it is online x
I do try to talk to my son but he is being treated for depression and after 3 years of uni has only one small module to complete to finish and get his degree. He says he doesn't want to do it. He has little patience or empathy for me and can be quite unkind. But i know this is the depression because he is a lovely young man normally. Just not someone who is much interested in me.
Hi @svalentino, I like you I suffer from diabetes type 2, & what your going through, as I also suffer with C.O.P.D & osteoarthritis & had to have an emergency herna operation too on top of all that. During Nov 2015 & March 2016 I in & out of hospital with breathing problems 8 times & a couple of hypo's which I had to be put a life support machine a couple of times in that period. The trouble is I lost over 4 stone in weight, but once I got through all that I put all the weight back on plus a little more. I now have gone onto a diet give me by the consultant at the hospital, & now I've just over a stone again. I also suffer with blood pressure & a couple other things too. Can I say to to try & cut down the sweet things such sugar in tea & coffee & cakes etc, I know it sounds hard but you try & be & think positive. I'm sure that your family & friends can & will try to help out with this. I forgot to say I'm 70 y/o & try to stay active with a couple of clubs I'm involved with. Thoughts are with you. Hope you don't think that I'm having a moan. Paul HarrisThank you very much for the fast replies and for making me feel welcome. I will look around the forum and take in the advice you've given me.
Hi,
Have finally decided to get involved with the forum because i seem to making a mess of everything while trying to do it alone and have felt embarrassed and a bit ashamed of my spiralling diabetes type 2 and other health problems due to my own actions. I'm 57, divorced and live with my student son whose 22. I was told i had pre-diabetes a few years ago. Maybe around 5 or 6. Doctor just said i was prediabetic and he'd test me again in a year. Didn't say anything else. What i could do etc to stop becoming diabetic and i knew nothing so off i went and continued to have 4 sugars in my tea and high sugar content junk food on a daily basis. Was then diagnosed diabetic a few months later and again not given much info but given 500mg of Metformin to take a day which kept my sugars at a normal level for quite a while. I have had other health and mental health problems for a few years. I have a severe anxiety disorder, hypothyroidism, high blood pressure, high cholesterol etc. My sugars just kept getting higher. I told my diabetic nurse and doctor many times i was struggling. That i felt constantly hungry even directly after i had eaten. That for some reason i couldn't stop eating sweets, chocolate, white bread etc daily. Nothing much was said so each time i came away feeling alone and on a downward spiral. It got worse and worse. My daughter died at xmas 2015 suddenly and my world collapsed and i feel just as bereft today, every minute of every day. My sugars continue to spiral and i would call myself an emotional eater. My sugars are often on average 12 and upwards when i wake up and haven't eaten since dinner the night before. I now take 9 tablets a day consisting of Metformin, Levothyroxine, Ramipril, Beta blockers, Avarstatin, sitagliptin, Amlodipine. I'm only 5ft 3 and should weigh around 9.5 stone. I weight 12st 7. I have tried every diet known to man and last a whole day sometimes. I've been in a lot of pain lately and my doctor thinks it is likely gallstones but of course my anxiety makes it worse. I have pain in the abdomen, swollen stomach and sore stomach a lot, upper back pain etc and am waiting for a scan which is frightening me because my anxiety makes me think it is something far worse (How can gallstones cause so much constant pain in lots of places etc). I decided yesterday to start intermittent fasting after watching a documentary. Lasted all day yesterday until the evening when i had four slices of high fat pizza. Started again today and at 11am went and had pate on two pieces of white toast. So you can see my struggle. I have no idea how to improve my health, how to lower my sugars. Healthy foods that i enjoy are in the main too expensive for me and everyday I am aware that with all my health problems already at my age, that i am unlikely to see old age unless i do something now. Sorry for the ramble but I do feel a bit better having said it all out loud even if it is online x
Hi, the best bit of advice I can give you that hasn't been touched on, is keeping a food dairy and testingThanks everyone. Amazing advice very quickly after posting. I didn't know about low carbs etc so that is something i will put into practise right away. Thank you very much for the help and i'll let you know how i get on.
Hi I'm new to the forum but can i ask when did you become deaf as i have a genetic condition of which not much is known about which is predisposed to both deafness and diabetes.A huge hug to you for all that you've recently gone through. And it is 'recently' - my mum passed away 20 years ago from diabetes complications and I will always be grieving for her. I had a miscarriage just over a year ago and it exacerbated diabetes in me, as chocolate biscuits and crisps were my comfort food and at the time, comfort food was more important than anything. But then diabetes things got mixed in with depression and being deaf and I didn't know which was which - sleeping a lot, lack of balance, general not feeling good, difficulty driving at night.
As stated above, be kind to yourself. Every day. There will be days that don't work - just hopefully not every day. Many people here do cut out carbs, myself included, and it's hard because carbs are addictive. I'm happy to not eat pasta, potatoes, cereal, but bread, chocolate, biscuits have been a struggle because they are easy to just grab. Changing that habit doesn't necessarily involve eating what some people think of as 'healthy' (salads) - I tend to eat omelettes, fry-ups, lots of meat, bacon (I count bacon as its own food group!), cheese, low-carb jelly with double cream and high-cocoa chocolate grated on top. Make sure you do eat - if you don't, you'll be hungry and more likely to reach for something high carb, as you've found out.
Very true my fasting sugar was 3 month ago 110 now 78 only I have left white rice potatoesYour main aim should be to control your diabetes, don't worry about your weight as that is often resolved once blood glucose normalizes.
Start your day with a satisfying breakfast, but with only a small amount of carbohydrate. Plan your meals and get rid of the things high in carbohydrate as they cause hunger.
Once you can stop the roller-coaster ride of high carb, high insulin response, low blood sugar, hunger and more carbs you should find it a lot easier - but bread potatoes rice and all things sugary are not your friends and should not be trusted in your diet.
Hi @svalentino, I like you I suffer from diabetes type 2, & what your going through, as I also suffer with C.O.P.D & osteoarthritis & had to have an emergency herna operation too on top of all that. During Nov 2015 & March 2016 I in & out of hospital with breathing problems 8 times & a couple of hypo's which I had to be put a life support machine a couple of times in that period. The trouble is I lost over 4 stone in weight, but once I got through all that I put all the weight back on plus a little more. I now have gone onto a diet give me by the consultant at the hospital, & now I've just over a stone again. I also suffer with blood pressure & a couple other things too. Can I say to to try & cut down the sweet things such sugar in tea & coffee & cakes etc, I know it sounds hard but you try & be & think positive. I'm sure that your family & friends can & will try to help out with this. I forgot to say I'm 70 y/o & try to stay active with a couple of clubs I'm involved with. Thoughts are with you. Hope you don't think that I'm having a moan. Paul Harris
Hi svalentine60
Only just seen your message, so all I can say is: what everyone already has. You are in the right place, reading this lot. We've been there and taken the advice. Welcome aboard, it'll not be long before you are typing encouraging messages for others
Cheers, Steve
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