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Spiralling Health Problems

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by svalentine60, Aug 9, 2018.

  1. svalentine60

    svalentine60 · Active Member

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    Thank you Mike x
     
  2. Diakat

    Diakat Type 1 · Moderator
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    Losing a child is never easy, it is natural to want to talk about her - and perhaps talking can help you move on from the grief. My grandmother lived for over 20 years after my mother died and still spoke about her. We are not supposed to outlive our children and the pain must be intense. However, she would probably be appalled that you are harming yourself with high sugars because of the grief. Hope the GP can help a little.
     
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  3. rhubarb73

    rhubarb73 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Firstly - you have nothing to apologise for. You are finding this (and everything else) difficult and that is natural and understandable.
    There is a lot of hope buried in your posts; let's bring it to the surface:
    i) You WANT to get better. You clearly do, and are starting to do many of the things that will help you. Well done.
    ii) You are seeing and feeling the benefits of adjusting your diet - remember how that feels to be in less pain.
    iii) you are testing and that is giving you valuable information - not all your food choices are good choices, you know that, but the test results are telling you that which will help you make better choices.
    You are making some mistakes, we all do. You are acknowledging them and coming to share and ask for more advice.
    Keep coming back. We are all behind you.
    Andy was half-right - You need to have more faith: IN YOURSELF.
    You can do this - you have already started. You won't get it right every day.
     
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  4. JoKalsbeek

    JoKalsbeek Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Your breakfast seems fine, save for the toast! And believe it or not, if you order a big mac or a big king xl, but ask them to hold the bun... Just end up with the meat, added bacon & cheese, salad and tomatoes, and voila, it *is* low carb. So you can still resort to fast food joints, just don't have the buns with the burgers! (And nix the fries). Have cheese, eggs, olives, nuts, greens, have bacon, have pork scratchings... It's all low carb and won't spike you.

    As for mental health; stress impacts bs too, and negatively so. I lost my first fiancé to suicide, 21 years ago. No-one knew how to reach me in the years following that, how to talk about it... I didn't want to be reached either, I just wanted to be where he was! (Almost succeeded too). Everything was black, void, empty. Grief does horrible things to us when we can't work through it. And it doesn't ever really go away, not entirely. But I'm married now and far as I can be with anxiety and a clinical depression, sortof happy. Doug's still important to me, I still love him very much. But I also know he never would've wanted me to hurt as I did. (I think he honestly believed I'd be better off without him. No idea how loved he was, clearly. But depression lies; it told him he was worthless. All the while, he was my world. All too litterally). In any case... After a while I found a grief group made up out of widows, online. We talked, we cried, and eventually, laughed together. I couldn't attend counseling because of my anxiety, but that group was my way to tell my story, let other people know Dougie existed and that he was loved. And it just became a part of who I am. No-one can take that from me; he's a part of me now. Maybe finding a place like this one here would help, but for people in your shoes rather than diabetics? People who know how grief over a child especially, can consume life. And how you need to talk about your daughter without encountering predjudice or judgement, or avoidance... Might help, both with your pain and your bloodsugar. I'm not going to compare my grief to yours, losing a fiancé is very different from losing a child. But I know extreme grief, and stigma, and I just thought I'd mention what helped me back then. As it might help you now.

    Big hug,
    Jo
     
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  5. rolypolypudding

    rolypolypudding Prediabetes · Well-Known Member

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  6. old sparky

    old sparky Type 2 · Active Member

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    Hi there you have joined a great forum for people with Diabetes, I was sceptical at first, as like you I have quite a few issues, but I joined here (on the advice of my GP)
    I have not looked back, my depression and anxiety is virtually under control and by going on a low carb intake, I wouldn't say diet as thats the wrong word, I do not take sugar in my tea but perhaps one in coffee,
    I used to be quite active but old age takes its toll, My levels were quite high as was my BP and cholesterol but now with all the helpful advice on here My cholesterol is 5.1 my BP 145/79 and my BG levels about 6.8 I am now 72 and apart from sciatica and gout I can still sort out a few jobs around the house and get involved with my grandchildren. (although I do not ride motorcycles or scuba dive anymore)
    I know its easy to say but try to cut down on the sugars, get yourself a free testing kit and keep a diary you will see how you are doing on a weekly basis, I was testing myself every day and even got paranoid about it, but now once a month just to see if I am going in the right or wrong direction. Listen to the advice on here and you cannot go wrong.
    Good luck and stay well.
     
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  7. Magz2004

    Magz2004 Type 2 · Member

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    Read the 8 week blood sugar diet by Michael Mosley it will explain the fatty liver, hunger etc and give you hope.
     
  8. Lisaleo

    Lisaleo Type 2 · Member

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    Hi guys am also new to this forum and reading this thread has been like my own questions that the original lady posted, iam type 2 and am on insulin my doctor has not really told me about wat to eat so learning about not having carbs is new to me, so thank you to the lady who started this thread, well done to you because by doing this it's helpful to others like me, now I don't wanna take over with my own questions but I desperately need help with this low or no carbs is there somewhere we can see on wat foods are safe to eat and maybe meal ideas and can it be in plain easy so it's not hard to understand cause it can be really difficult to understand all that is good and all that is bad, an am sure the information that anyone can provide here will help more than me, it's good to see another person as well who is asking the same sorta questions so really thank you to the person who started the thread and I really hope you get the help on here, ur not alone believe me x
     
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  9. Tumbleweed2017

    Tumbleweed2017 Prediabetes · Member

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    Your son might benefit from a low carb diet. Lots of people are using a ketogenic diet (low carb, high fat diet - LCHF) and have discovered that massively reducing carbs and sugar intake, although hard for many sugar addicts to begin with, has an amazingly good effect on lifting depression for many people.

    I've picked up loads of tips and recipes from the Low Carb Program linked to by this website :

    https://www.lowcarbprogram.com/

    It contains loads of recipes for people to download.

    I also use DietDoctor :

    https://www.dietdoctor.com/

    I'm still a newbie at all this, but it is starting to make sense now.
     
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  10. Paul_Harris

    Paul_Harris Type 2 · Member

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    Hi @svalentino, I like you I suffer from diabetes type 2, & what your going through, as I also suffer with C.O.P.D & osteoarthritis & had to have an emergency herna operation too on top of all that. During Nov 2015 & March 2016 I in & out of hospital with breathing problems 8 times & a couple of hypo's which I had to be put a life support machine a couple of times in that period. The trouble is I lost over 4 stone in weight, but once I got through all that I put all the weight back on plus a little more. I now have gone onto a diet give me by the consultant at the hospital, & now I've just over a stone again. I also suffer with blood pressure & a couple other things too. Can I say to to try & cut down the sweet things such sugar in tea & coffee & cakes etc, I know it sounds hard but you try & be & think positive. I'm sure that your family & friends can & will try to help out with this. I forgot to say I'm 70 y/o & try to stay active with a couple of clubs I'm involved with. Thoughts are with you. Hope you don't think that I'm having a moan. Paul Harris
     
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    pyotrr Type 2 · Member

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    TriciaWs Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    That is a lot to cope with.
    I am an emotional eater too. When I was told I had prediabetes a while ago I managed to get it under control, but slipped back into my old eating after.
    Then my annual blood test this year went up from normal to diabetic.
    I was lucky, my new GP offered support for me to go back on the low carb diet instead of metformin, my diabetic nurse is OK (if not fully supportive of low carb at first) and the dietitian offered a little advice while I taught her about low carb!
    Plus my GP gave me a phone number to get an appointment with IAPT to talk about my eating patterns.
    I'm a member of the lowcarbprogram - they offer support, meal plans, and a food diary to calculate fats/carbs/protein. And now the sign-up fee can be covered by a prescription.
    Within two weeks back on lowcarb my blood sugars were back in the normal range - so I know if I stay firm I can avoid diabetic complications without the drugs. That is a huge incentive.
    As for the comfort eating - I have low carb pancakes with fruit sometimes, or low carb cake, and at night I have 1-2 squares of 80% chocolate. Apart from that I find a square of cheese with often shuts up the craving.

    The only problem for you might be gallstones - I had my gallbladder out a few years back but before that I had to really limit the amount of fat I ate. It was really annoying to find out that previous low fat diets probably caused them! (Yoyo dieting can cause gallstones.) If you want to go low carb, you really need to good advice on how to do this.
     
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    Padraic1308 Type 2 · Member

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    There is a rule of thumb, or golden rule.
    FORGET CARBOHYDRATES.
    It`s not difficult to find online what`s forbidden for us with type 2.
    Very simple rules: NO CARBS.
     
  15. MICHAELD11

    MICHAELD11 Type 2 · Member

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    Hi, the best bit of advice I can give you that hasn't been touched on, is keeping a food dairy and testing
    BG at meal times. When you do a dairy and test you will quickly see which foods are having an affact. A
     
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  16. StevePayne

    StevePayne Prediabetes · Member

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    Hi svalentine60

    Only just seen your message, so all I can say is: what everyone already has. You are in the right place, reading this lot. We've been there and taken the advice. Welcome aboard, it'll not be long before you are typing encouraging messages for others :)

    Cheers, Steve
     
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    Clairem81 · Newbie

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    Hi I'm new to the forum but can i ask when did you become deaf as i have a genetic condition of which not much is known about which is predisposed to both deafness and diabetes.
     
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    Very true my fasting sugar was 3 month ago 110 now 78 only I have left white rice potatoes
     
  19. svalentine60

    svalentine60 · Active Member

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    Thank you Paul.
     
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    svalentine60 · Active Member

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    Thank you x
     
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