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Started Metformin one week ago....

Dollymixture

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Hi everyone, I have been borderline diabetic for approx ten years and according to my doctor, "the honeymoon period is coming to an end!" I have been feeling awful fatigue for a number of years which is very disabling. I've been started on Metformin 500 three x day (a week ago) but unfortunately have been unable to tolerate them. Spoke to my pharmascist who suggested taking one with the biggest meal of the day for a few days and then start to increase up to 3 a day. Glad to say today is the first day I have started to feel better but have not started on the three a day yet. What I wanted to ask is this: Should I be testing blood myself. I was told sometime ago by my doctor that I didn't need a machine to test as I would be checked by the surgery, but now I am on medication, would it not be appropriate to do the test myself? What do people think? Thanks
 
My honest advice if you've just started on Metformin is this. Yes get a test meter and strips and test your BS 2 hours after food and medication. Keep a diary to show your Doctor/Diabetic Nurse.

They will not give you strips on prescription yet. If over time the Metformin/Change in life style does not work, they may try another drug called Gliclazide (probably mis-spelt that!)....this can have a more prositive impact on your BS and they will give you a meter and strips at that point as you can experience Hypos (when BS falls too low you will notice it!, below 4 for me).

I would strongly advise on keeping the diary...date, food/water, meds...blood sugar before food, then 2 hours after to see the effect the food/meds is having. Important you know what say 2 bits of toast with egg on top does...or if you eat a bowl of pasta for dinner...or out and have a Pizza which contain a lot of carbs.

A lot of people advise low carb diet, but it makes sense to me to find out first how reactive you are to carbs.

They argued with me, that I don't need to measure myself...but how else will you know how reactive your body is to certain carbs...for me I am very very reactive to any carbs....and I've recently found out I have late onset Type 1....which explains why none of the Type 2 pills worked for me. Now on day 2 of insulin.
 
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Welcome to the forum dollymixture

I will tag @daisy1 who has some info for newbies that she can post for you.

I would be surprised if your blood testing after 2 hours doesn't show a big increase in glucose from eating pasta, toast or pizza but the only way to be sure is to try it yourself. My blood glucose would spike if I ate any of those.

There is a slow release version of metformin that is easier on the stomach but your pharmacist's advise to start it slowly is sound.

Have a look around and feel free to ask any questions you like. :)
 
@Dollymixture

Hello Dollymixture and welcome to the forum :) Yes, get yourself a testing kit so that you can see what effect particular foods have on your levels, by testing before and two hours after meals. Here, as mentioned above, is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Welcome to the forum dollymixture

I will tag @daisy1 who has some info for newbies that she can post for you.

I would be surprised if your blood testing after 2 hours doesn't show a big increase in glucose from eating pasta, toast or pizza but the only way to be sure is to try it yourself. My blood glucose would spike if I ate any of those.

There is a slow release version of metformin that is easier on the stomach but your pharmacist's advise to start it slowly is sound.

Have a look around and feel free to ask any questions you like. :)
I agree, but to me in the beginning, it's good to know just how reactive you are to carbs. For example I have a friend that has Type 2 and can eat Weetabix and it does not raise the BS too high....but for me, just one brick sents mine up a lot. But then that's before I knew I had Type 1 (late onset).

My Doctors I think just told me I did not need to measure because they could not or did not want to give me strips on prescription. They said just let us measure and we'll take an average over time. However I think it's better if you know yourself in the short term just how reactive you are to certain carbs. I wanted to get the BS under control way sooner than the Doctors, and perhaps that was driven by the fear of the complications mismanaged diabetes can cause. Now I've lived with the condition a bit longer I realise that these complications are more likely to occur later in life, however still think it's advantagous to get it under control soonest. Just my opinion of course and I'm not saying I'm in anyway correct.
 
I agree, but to me in the beginning, it's good to know just how reactive you are to carbs. For example I have a friend that has Type 2 and can eat Weetabix and it does not raise the BS too high....but for me, just one brick sents mine up a lot. But then that's before I knew I had Type 1 (late onset).

My Doctors I think just told me I did not need to measure because they could not or did not want to give me strips on prescription. They said just let us measure and we'll take an average over time. However I think it's better if you know yourself in the short term just how reactive you are to certain carbs. I wanted to get the BS under control way sooner than the Doctors, and perhaps that was driven by the fear of the complications mismanaged diabetes can cause. Now I've lived with the condition a bit longer I realise that these complications are more likely to occur later in life, however still think it's advantagous to get it under control soonest. Just my opinion of course and I'm not saying I'm in anyway correct.
You're quite right, it's best to get the BG down as soon as possible. Minor complications happen straight away, like fatigue, proneness to infections, bladder problems etc. I say minor because we're not talking about kidney failure, but these sort of issues are pretty unpleasant so why wait longer than you have to, eh? I got a meter as soon as I was diagnosed and went from there. It's been very helpful.
 
James_1d, CatLadyNZ, and daisy1. Thank you all so much for so much information. Thinks now I ought to get me a meter and start learning about good and bad carbs, which I'd never ever considered. Confession! - (hate saying this but cake/chocolate/sweet things are/have been my downfall):(
 
James_1d, CatLadyNZ, and daisy1. Thank you all so much for so much information. Thinks now I ought to get me a meter and start learning about good and bad carbs, which I'd never ever considered. Confession! - (hate saying this but cake/chocolate/sweet things are/have been my downfall):(
You and me both, dollymixture. I have a real sweet tooth, but the benefits of saying no are really worth it, I have found.
 
James_1d, CatLadyNZ, and daisy1. Thank you all so much for so much information. Thinks now I ought to get me a meter and start learning about good and bad carbs, which I'd never ever considered. Confession! - (hate saying this but cake/chocolate/sweet things are/have been my downfall):(
Well you'll need to hold off on them as these are the fast short chain sugar molocules....and will send you BS much higher much sooner.

I am as I type studying the condition from scratch, I want to know everything about the condition, what causes...all the terminology. There is such a variety of opinion, and the best advice I've had is self eduction as everyone is different and at different points in the disese......what works for one may not work for another. So for me keeping a strict diary, and self education are where I feel I need to be.
 
Generally think of all carbs as sugar that takes longer to start your blood glucose climbing but can raise it for longer.

Some starchy carbohydrates are just about OK for some diabetics but not others. It is best to cut them all down or completely out them see what the effect is on you by testing.
 
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