Starting insulin soon

Jojo52

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Background - been T2 for 5 years been on metformin on one pill for 2years than needed to giving two but could only have one pill a day as could not go far from the loo if I took more. tried 2 slow release ones could not go out of house as could not be far from loo
Now - been taken of metformin and had to see diabetic nurse at local hospital had to do test of blood sugars for two weeks. Had phone call today to tell her my blood sugars and she is seeing me in two weeks and I am going straight on to insulin.
Bit worried it's a big jump from metformin to insulin
And I hate needles
 

rab5

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Have you tried LCHF?
 

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Hi and welcome,

Can you tell us what your testing of blood sugars revealed? What levels did you see, and when were they taken (morning fasting/before meals/2 hours after meals/bedtime ?? Also, what was the result of your last HbA1c test? Have you had any other sorts of blood tests for glucose or insulin levels, and what were they?
 
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bulkbiker

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Hello and welcome to the forum
What kind of things do you eat and what have your blood sugars been?
I'l tag @daisy1 for the intro to low carb a way a lot of us have found that helps to lower blood sugars with diet (and maybe with milder medications like metformin). Unfortunately the NHS doesn't seem to want to give this advice out but check out the low carb success stories threads if you want to see what quite a few here have achieved.
 
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Jojo52

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Last HbA1c was 77
Blood sugars tested before each meal and one before bed so 4 a day
Levels been anything from 12 to 26
I lost a lot of weight then put all on plus more ( a lot of family problems)
I no its because I messed up my health from eating wrong things
Think it has hit home going from metformin to insulin is a very big jump
 
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I can't comment on this from a T2 perspective or alternative options to insulin for you.
But I can comment about needles.
Before I was diagnosed with T1, I had a strong dislike of needles and still look away if anyone else tries to inject me or take my blood.
However, I don't have any problems injecting myself.
It may be a case of "inject or die"; it may be that I know exactly when the needle is going in; or it may be that the needles we use for insulin are tiny (a fraction of the size of the needles used for vaccinations).
 

bulkbiker

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Last HbA1c was 77
Blood sugars tested before each meal and one before bed so 4 a day
Levels been anything from 12 to 26
I lost a lot of weight then put all on plus more ( a lot of family problems)
I no its because I messed up my health from eating wrong things
Think it has hit home going from metformin to insulin is a very big jump
I'm guessing a bit here but those levels are pretty high so maybe the nurse wants to get your levels under control with insulin for a brief period before exploring other avenues. As I said previously it could depend on what you are eating. if you eat a high carbohydrate diet then higher blood sugar levels are to be expected. if you eat a low carb diet then they are unusual and need further investigation.
 
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Jojo52

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Thanks idea of smaller needles helps a lot
I no when I do my blood sugars they are OK but when someone else does them it hurts my finger
So maybe it's I no when it's going in
Feel a bit happier now
 

rab5

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Last HbA1c was 77
Blood sugars tested before each meal and one before bed so 4 a day
Levels been anything from 12 to 26
I lost a lot of weight then put all on plus more ( a lot of family problems)
I no its because I messed up my health from eating wrong things
Think it has hit home going from metformin to insulin is a very big jump

What is it you want to achieve.

As has been said before there are high numbers of success stories of people who have controlled their T2 by diet (LCHF) and managed to get their HBA1C into normal non diabetic levels


Good luck with whatever you decide to do
 

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@Jojo52

Hello Jojo and welcome to the Forum :) As mentioned above, here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 

h884

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Hi there. I was started on insulin last September. I tried 6 drugs first but was unable tolerate them. Similar problems to yourself.

It has been a challenge going onto insulin, however my HB1AC is coming down and I am learning to adapt

Let us know how things go
 
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Jenny15

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I recently started on insulin and the needles are not an issue for me. Fingerprick testing is 100 times more painful for me.

Feel free to private message me if there is anything you would like to ask.