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Type 2 Statins - GP insisting Simvastatin 20mg

My GP asks me about statins. I refused. They raise blood sugar levels and can have massively negative side effects including severe muscle pain and memory loss. They seem to have minuscule benefits and massive drawbacks. See the film Statin Nation.
 
When I was still on Metformin this happened to me, I went to chemist to collect my prescription and was handed my Metformin and a box of Statins. My doctor had offered me statins on numerous occasions and I had always refused so when the chemist gave them to me I handed them back and told her that I had not ordered them. It never happened again.
 
Looks like @Bluetit1802 forgot the link! Easily done, but here it is (I keep it bookmarked!):
https://qrisk.org/three/

Thanks. Some of the variables are random. If I add my postcode the score goes up quite a lot! Similarly migraines - these are now resolved since LCHF. If I take out migraines, postcode and type 2 diabetes - they really should ask for HbA1c score, my heart health is equivalent to someone 2 years younger. Add any of these back in and it goes up above my age, with postcode being the highest.
 

I took Atorvastatin for one week. I'm lucky, I had a reaction after just five days and discontinued after seven. I feel that I dodged a bullet but my DN told me quite vehemently that statins do not cause muscle pain when I told her of my decision to discontinue. My GP blanked me when I told him of the reaction and continues to nag. Anyone wanting more details would benefit from reading Dr. Malcolm Kendrick's book 'The Great Cholesterol Con' (Kendrick is featured in the above clip). Thanks for posting.
 

Couldn't agree more. I'm lucky, my post code drops mine! I must live in a healthy area. It is my age that increases mine, and there is s*d all I can do about that! Diabetes more or less doubles it, and strangely enough if you compare what smoking and diabetes do, it seems diabetes is more risky than smoking.
 
I have just spent a few minutes playing with the link, just changing postcode and then sex. Postcode made little difference but change sex and women seem to be OK while their men are not (double the risk) Interesting.
 
Perhaps you could offer to take up another behaviour that is thought to be beneficial instead of taking a statin (a bit like off-setting carbon emissions). On page 4 of this article https://understandinguncertainty.org/files/2012bmj-microlives.pdf it appears, for example, that the daily equivalent of a statin is 20 mins of exercise for a sedentary person, watching 2 hours less television or not eating red meat.
 
I had problems with Simvastin, my GP prescribed Rosuvastatin, no problems so far
 
Then your GP needs to go back for re-training!
 

This being the same NHS that advises starchy carbs for Type 2 diabetics...
 
So many variables though, although anything is worth a try. I have run 5 miles a day for years but still have high overall cholesterol. I have a healthy (lowish carb) diet, don't smoke, don't drink but cannot get my LDL down to a lower level (HDL and trigs are good).
 
OH went for his well-man appointment with nurse this afternoon (I went as well) She said that his cholesterol had gone up, he should take a statin, I knew this was going to happen. I pointed out that his lipids were good and she said 'oh I forgot that you know all about cholesterol' and then she said that his were good. LCHF rocks.
 
How did I guess you would say that? Beware of throwing the baby out with the bathwater ...
Possibly because bad dietary advice based on poor science is the same wherever it comes from. If you don't want to eat red meat then fine but so far as I can see the WHO was ill informed when it published its warnings.. and as for lowering cholesterol being necessarily a good thing I'd say the jury is firmly out on that as well.
 
If we listened to all the "experts" and powers that be, we would be restricted to water only ..... but hey! we can't even drink that with all the additives.
 
I tried to get away with it but cholesterol and liver damage changed that taking it has improved liver disease..you will decide what.is best.
 
Yeah statins will do you in. Like the guy I saw yesterday via telemedicine in a town about 3 hours from here. He has Type 2 diabetes, A1C about 9, weighs 300 pounds, smokes. But he's an old dude, I think he's 61 so who cares? He looked like he was about 80. And he's only had 7 coronary stents in 3 months but he has no heart damage at all. He feels pretty good and he wants no statins. His cholesterol isn't horrible either. I offered to try him on one but he said he read bad things about them on the internet, and from big time doctors too. He said he was gonna go low carb. I said fine and just do yourself one favor: DON'T BUY ANY GREEN BANANAS!
 
Can you reduce your trigs without statin? Are you predisposed to severe heart disease (hereditary)?
 
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