Steroid induced diabetes

jackie111095

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Hi I'm confused I have been pre diabetic for as long as I can remember a few years ago I had Bariatric sugery 2010 and know this year I have had low hc110 blood results 13. and hypo episodes with Bm of 3.2 I was advised to eat every 2 hours and referd to the hospital in November last year that appointment is coming up in April, however I had a chest infection and Asthma exasbation from the 9th February and started Prednisone on the 11th February I am now on a reducing dose by 5mg over a 5 days to stop on the 3rd April . I have had hyperglycaemic symptoms and Bm of over 13.0 the highest was 18.4 since being on the Prednisone and also just prior to starting them.
Does this mean I am diabetic know as it started prior to the preds treatment and is breathlessness a symptom of Hyperglycaemia please advise.
 

daisy1

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@jackie111095

Hello Jackie and welcome to the forum :) Here is the basic information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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JohnEGreen

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@jackie111095 Hi jackie and welcome I have steroid induced T2 but I have been taking Prednisolone a long time and at high dosage up to 40mg a day at one time. Now at 15mg a day and neurologist is adamant I can't step down any further as yet.
As to whether steroids actually cause diabetes is for some debatable there are those that think it does and then another group who believe it merely brings out what was a predisposition for diabetes. I believe it did cause mine.

The good news is that for many if they have not been taking preds for an extended period at relatively high dosage when they stop taking them the diabetes does go away or diminish though in some cases it does not and like me and some others here we are stuck with it.

And it is difficult if not impossible to predict which you may be but as you haven't been on them for more than a couple of months hopefully things will at least go back to where they were. Though that situation must have been worrying in its self.

Also please realise that something like a severe chest infection and exacerbation of your asthma could in its self cause raised blood sugar in fact many bouts of any illness can do so. So it could be nothing to do with the course of steroids at all.

I'm sorry I could not be of more help and more definitive in my answer. But I will say given what you have said I personally think once your general health goes back to normal and you no longer are on preds, I would be surprised if you found your self with permanent diabetes. Unless you where headed that way already.

Sorry to be so long winded with this and I do hope all goes well for you. and you get things sorted out in April. Remember nothing is set in stone
 
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pleinster

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Hi. There is no doubt at all that Prednisolone (and steroids in general) raise blood sugar levels. Furtther, there is no question in my mind at all that Prednisolone caused my diabetes...and I was warned it could prior to taking it, but it was essential to assist in anti-rejection of a transplanted kidney, so I am not complaining...after all, I'd rather have diabetes Type 2 than have to go on dialysis three of four days a week.
So, I was well aware of the risk. My renal doctors have stated that long term treatment with the steroid caused my diabetes. It is commonly said it, usually by non-specialists, doctors without transplant experience and/or GPs towing a party line (no doubt indirectly pushed by the drug company) merely triggered a predisposition. I have no diabetes in my family history, I was never overweight and did not bring it about through lifestyle.
Anyway - point is....IF your treatment is less than maybe 2-3 months, it is quite possible that you will not go on to develop Type 2 diabetes but that blood sugar levels will return to normal on stopping the drug. There is some argument that even if it does appear to have developed, Steroid Induced Diabetes may be more easily reversed than Non Steroid Induced..but I'm not so sure about that. Those who are on such a steroid longer term, where there is an increased blood sugar level, will go on to develop Type 2. I was initially on 25mg and was diagnosed diabetic last April with a level of 20.5mmols. My dose was gradually cut, and is no down to 2.5mg...and my blood sugar is easier to control BUT...ONLY through a strict low carb diet. My levels are now generally inside the normal range...which is great...but it jumps up if I eat too many carbs.
SHORT ANSWER - it depends!
Best case scenario - your blood sugar will probably drop on stopping the Prednisolone, but you may still be border line.
Worst case - you have Type 2, but the levels should still come down - and with the right diet and approach...you will totally cope.
 
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jackie111095

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Thank you daisy this information is very helpful re Cars I am gluten free and that in its own way can have extra added sugar also I have no clue re Low Glicemic index etc I am learning so much on this site considering I have been pre diabetic for years the gps are only interested in giving information when you have a diagnosis of type 1 or 2 would it not be in their best interests to inform and prevent in the first place I am so glad I found this group