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Strict no carb no sugar diet.

Jenny92

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Hi everyone. So today my doctor has put me on a strict no carb no sugar diet. I have not been diagnosed. But if I carry on the way I am. Then I probably will be.
So.... with a strict no carb no sugar diet. What sort of things do you eat? I need ideas. I don't like fish. So that's a no go. Lol.
Thanks everyone very new to all this. And want to do this to better myself and my health.
 
Hi and welcome,

How strange he should say No Carb. There are even a couple of carbs in lettuce. Did he mean zero carb or low carb? Or did he mean no starchy carbs like bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and flour? Surely he didn't mean just eat meat, fish and some dairy foods?

Have a look at this for some ideas on low carb
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/foods#foodlist
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds

Did you have an HbA1c blood test, and if so, what were your levels that bring you close to a diabetes diagnosis? (This is a test that measures your blood glucose levels over the previous 2 to 3 months)
 
Hi and welcome,

How strange he should say No Carb. There are even a couple of carbs in lettuce. Did he mean zero carb or low carb? Or did he mean no starchy carbs like bread, pasta, rice, potatoes and flour? Surely he didn't mean just eat meat, fish and some dairy foods?

Have a look at this for some ideas on low carb
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/foods#foodlist
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/60-seconds

Did you have an HbA1c blood test, and if so, what were your levels that bring you close to a diabetes diagnosis? (This is a test that measures your blood glucose levels over the previous 2 to 3 months)
I'd say low carb then. Sorry. Lol. So no starchy carbs. She directed me to this site. As she thought it would best for me. It started back last year. When I found out I had fatty liver -non alcoholic. Just through weight gain, I fell pregnant and lost a lot of weight during my pregnancy. I was having my liver function tested every two weeks. And it kept rising. Although I was losing weight. Once I had my son. The fatty liver had gone. But now my son is 9 months old. I gained 2 stone out of the 3.5 stone I had lost whilst pregnant. All my symptoms have returned. Main symptom being weight gain and horrendous acid reflux/ heartburn all day every day (taking medication for it) My doctor is worried that if i carry on gaining weight. I could make myself worse which could possibly lead to diabetes. She done a blood test today and I won't find out the results until next week. But she wants me to start a diet which I have to cut out carbs and sugars. I just find it so hard and need some ideas. Sorry for the long reply. Just thought I'd give a bit of an understanding. Thank you.
 
If you haven't been diagnosed is it for weight purposes??

Many of us stay under 20 carbs per DAY but it does give us low carb veggies options like celery, mushrooms, asparagus, salad greens. Above ground veggies are the lowest carbs.

Even avocado and eggs have carbs.

Did he give you a list of foods you can eat??
 
Atkins has always worked really well for me. I can eat well, keep healthy and it is not at all difficult to adapt the menu for those who do eat carbs - the only problem I had was not enough burners on a 4 ring stove, as I did not have all the kitchen 'toys' available these days.
If you can find a copy of Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution - later books are by the Atkins Corporation and are not as good - it has lists of foods and also recipes and menus, and despite all the fad diet nonsense, it makes sense and is sustainable.
 
Hi welcome to the forum. I'll tag @daisy1 for some basic info for you.

I only know one person on a no carb diet. Perhaps your doc doesn't realise that veggies contain carbs!

Here's a link to a list of low carb foods which should be OK for you as you are only pre-diabetic.

Zand, I think you forgot the link! ;)
 
@Jenny92

Hello Jenny and welcome to the Forum. :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 245,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a free 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.

Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. They're all free.
  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why
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Hi and welcome @Jenny92

Glad you got your fatty liver sorted.
Many of us find that low carbing either halts weight gain, or allows weight loss, so your doc made a good suggestion.
The links people have posted are great, so I won't add more.
But I will encourage you to do a fair bit of reading about switching to low carb. It depends how strict you go, but sometimes people find that the first few days/weeks are quite an adjustment. The general advice is to drink plenty of water, and see how you feel.
You may find this interesting
https://authoritynutrition.com/5-most-common-low-carb-mistakes/

If you have any questions, please ask us! There is usually someone around with an answer fairly quickly.

Oh, and along with the physical transition, comes a weird mental transition too. The first few days, all you will be able to think about is all the things you can't eat. bread. rice. pasta. etc. etc.

Then, after a while, you suddenly have a sort of 'Aha!' moment. When you realise that the whole standard low fat diet thinking no longer applies. And you start to think of all the thinks you can eat. For me, it was an English breakfast (minus toast!), strawberries and cream, garlic butter on mushrooms and cheese. Oh, the cheese. You may have a different set of preferences, but believe me, you can find a range of interesting and enjoyable foods on low carb. :D
 
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