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Sudden hyper readings with conrolled diet

diabkash

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Type of diabetes
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Tablets (oral)
Ever since I started glyczide a few months ago, I suddenly feel unwell, tired and when I measure my BG , it is really high.
even with controlled diet and exercise
For eg. yesterday I had a light breakfast ( one wheetabix with soya milk with blueberries), went for a 4 km walk and came back
had cous cous and grilled vegetables and a 50/50 bread toast and suddenly felt unwell and tired and slept. woke up and measured
my BG and was 15mml. I was devastated! why does this happen?? I didn't eat much for tea, - cheese and biscuits and my homemade tomato
juice with spinach and blueberries. Measured after 2 hours it was 6 mml
Cant understand these spikes...
 
Two things, 1) exercise and 2) seems like a lot of carbs! Light for me is a had boiled egg or some green beans.
 
Ever since I started glyczide a few months ago, I suddenly feel unwell, tired and when I measure my BG , it is really high.
even with controlled diet and exercise
For eg. yesterday I had a light breakfast ( one wheetabix with soya milk with blueberries), went for a 4 km walk and came back
had cous cous and grilled vegetables and a 50/50 bread toast and suddenly felt unwell and tired and slept. woke up and measured
my BG and was 15mml. I was devastated! why does this happen?? I didn't eat much for tea, - cheese and biscuits and my homemade tomato
juice with spinach and blueberries. Measured after 2 hours it was 6 mml
Cant understand these spikes...

There are so many carbs in your dietary list.
You are just topping up your blood glucose levels, with that amount!
You need to reduce them more!
Strenuous exercise will increase blood glucose levels for a while, even though beneficial in the long term. T o reduce levels, gentle walking works!
But I wouldn't give up the exercise, because once your blood glucose levels have come down, you can get your weight down if you need to by increasing your exercise.

Also being on glicizide, you have to be careful if you drop too quickly and stay low! If you get readings of below 4mmols, then you need to speak to your GP!

Your blood glucose levels are up and down, the fluctuations will be giving you the horrible symptoms. That's why you feel dreadful and tired!

Reduce your carbs, reduce your plate size, increase your exercise, even if it's walking and read @daisy1 welcome information.
Read the low carb forum for information on food and recipes!
 
Ever since I started glyczide a few months ago, I suddenly feel unwell, tired and when I measure my BG , it is really high.
even with controlled diet and exercise
For eg. yesterday I had a light breakfast ( one wheetabix with soya milk with blueberries), went for a 4 km walk and came back
had cous cous and grilled vegetables and a 50/50 bread toast and suddenly felt unwell and tired and slept. woke up and measured
my BG and was 15mml. I was devastated! why does this happen?? I didn't eat much for tea, - cheese and biscuits and my homemade tomato
juice with spinach and blueberries. Measured after 2 hours it was 6 mml
Cant understand these spikes...
Are you by any chance vegetarian? I notice that your diet does not include much in the way of complex carbs, no fat to speak of, and apparently no protein. Your meals have nothing slowing the digestion down, and will spike quickly. You are also eating a load of carb, as mentioned elsewhere here, and I personally find couscous to spike me much the same as white rice. 6 months ago I was spiking above 35 mmol/L with an average around 15 mmol/L , and lowest around 9 mmol/L, and I have to say I felt fine. Now my readings are in the range 3 to 7.5 and I still feel ok. I too am on gliclazide (max dose).

Don't forget that all vegs have a carb content, and some more than others, Also cooked veg seems to have a higher carb content than raw. I note that you slept, and this may have prologed your spike as well.
 
@diabkash

Hello and welcome to the forum. Here is the information, mentioned above, which we give to new members. Look particularly at the diet advice and have a look at the Low Carb Forum. Ask as many questions you need to and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-types.html]different types of diabetes[/url] exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-complications/diabetes-complications.html]diabetic complications[/url].

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read http://www.diabetes.co.uk/diabetes-forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=17091]questions to ask at a diabetic clinic[/url]

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
Many thanks for all the replies! This is encouraging for me to start improving my BG levels!
I did not know cous cous is high carb! - thought it was on the low GI list.
I will continue to exercise, mild walking etc, I am a vegetarian but eat fish.
Thanks for all the reading materials, which I read and actually I read a lot about diabetes and
diet, and thought was doing fine... but obviously not!!
Today's fasting was 7.8! - had oats porridge and tomato juice and will measure my BG at 10.30
m having salmon and vegetables (!!) and will test again to see what is spiking.
Family thinks I am obsessive about testing, and not eating carbs etc, but need to understand.
this forum will help me to regulate my BG. thank you all
 
I am personally moving over to the Low Carb High Fat (LCHF) diet, since it seems to make sense, and I can see it haveing a direct effect on my bgl. There is a thread on this Forum dedicated to Low Carb diets that you may wish to peruse, There is also an online training course also being run by DCUK (this site) that is specific to LCHF. I have also done their Hypo awareness training course just in case. My family are using the DCUK Christmas Cookbook this year, and we recommend it, having tried out a few of the ideas in advance..
 
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