Sugar free Poison, life saver info ,Aspartame

sparkle73

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Hi, my name is claire. My story starts march 2007 when i became pregnant to my partner. We were over the moon and really excited at the thought of our little one being born. due date was the 10th of December. my pregnancy was text book until i went for the twelve weeks glucose tolerence test in which i was diagnosed with gestational diabetes, which is not uncommon in pregnancy. Still all went well. Because i had developed diabetes though i now had to watch my sugar intake, so i was sent to see the diabetic nurse to monitor my progress in the pregnany. Course now all the sugary products had to be got rid of as i was put on insulin three times a day to control my blood sugar levels, and of course i had to have more scans in my pregnancy than was usual. This is to watch for signs of the baby growing too large. My liver was also tested, which was fine to start with, so no worries at all. The scans always showed a healthy normal baby slowly growing and all was well.
Slowly over the months i started to replace the sugar in my diet with low sugar products, and Canderel in my tea. Day in and day out i ate what i was told was good for both me and my baby and so i thought everything was going to be fine. After about 6 months of pregnany and the many tests that i had to have, something started to change. My liver was slowly getting high readings in the tests they did on me, firstly the reading were slightly raised, then a month after, they raised a little more. Nobody was worried though as they say it is very common for this to happen in mid to late pregnany, and all seemed to be going well with our baby.
It was three days before they decided to induce me for our baby to be born 2 weeks before his due date. they said they dont like the pregnancy going full term just in case the baby starts to get too big with all the extra insulin floating about in the blood stream. so i prepared myself for a delivery the thursday of late november 2007. On the monday before that date though, our baby stopped moving and we became very worried. we got ourself up the the hospital as quickly as we could. I was rushed into theatre for an emergency cesarian.

Our son was born on the 26th of november 2007, he was rushed into the intensive care unit for monitoring after they had realised that he had been badly compromised before he was born. These things happen sometimes and we accepted that, although we were very puzzled after what seemed like a text book pregnancy to why things had gone so wrong. The doctors themselves expressed confusion to what had happened. our sons blood chemistry was haywire and he started fitting more or less straight away and was very poorly at one point. They didnt really know what could have happened. things started to become more clear though as they examined the placenta and umbilical cord. It had developed blood clots, and in the final few days, one clot had broken away to partly block our son's life line to his mums placenta. Still we just put it down to one of those things, even though it has become clear now that our son's development will be effected by what happened. We just accepted it as bad luck.

our son is now 4 month old and doing ok. The health issue is now with me. since He was born my liver reading were expected to return to normal, not only have they not, but have become even worse. I recently had a liver test done after a post natal examination caused concern over the reading. The gamma part of the test is the one that shows intake of substances that the body cannot deal with. Usually it is excessive alcohol or drugs that cause this part of the liver test to be high. A normal alcoholic will have a reading of 4 to 6 time the normal level. My reading for the gamma is a massive 10 times what it should be. I have been asked twice now by medical staff if i am a alcoholic and when i tell them that i am tee total and have been for years, they look at me with dismay and cant work out why my readings are so high. It wasnt until the doctor said. (this is something in your life style that is causing this, and usually to have reading so high you would have to be a raging alcoholic.. something you are doing is causing your liver to work hard as if its being poisoned like an alcoholic.) To this i was shocked because i know i dont drink, do drugs, medication or otherwise. my diet is still good and yes i dont even take sugar. this is when it hit me, the only difference in my life is the sugar free stuff i am eating and putting in my tea. Aspartame in all of these things. I decided to investigate and was shocked by my finding. i even saw a headline that said "ASPARTAME THE THALIDOMIDE OF THE 90'S" and we all know what that did to unborn babies.
The liver is your chemical factory, not only does it process toxins out of your blood stream but it also makes chemicals that help our bodies to function properly. One of those funtions is to regulate blood and clotting control. my liver started to go wrong as soon as i started to take artificial sweetners, not only in my tea in the form of canderel, but also in other food stuff like angel delight and sugar free chewing gum. This is the only thing in my diet that has changed, intake of Aspartame. i am under no doubt that this is the culprit to why my system is still being poisoned and maybe the link to why our son was so badly compromised. We went to see the specialist yesterday over our son and got the results from the MRI scan. The damage to his brain because of what happened we were told by the doctor, is highly likely to cause celebral palsy. This from a normal healthy pregnancy, scans which consistently showed a healthy baby.

Of course i am now off the horrible Aspartame poison and have been for almost a week. all i can do is hope and pray that the damage it had caused me is not permanent and that when i go and see the liver specialist my readings will start to fall and i dont have to have a liver biopsy. I guess at this point you may be wondering what massive intake i must have been taking to cause such problems for my health. well here is a run down to the amount i was taking. i'll let you decide if it's seems like a massive amount.

On average i would have 6 to 8 cups of tea with two canderel in each cup.
For treats i would have sugar free angel delight maybe twice a weeks.
I would chew sugar free gum for a while in the day.
then there are the bits that do add up. Like sugar free or reduced sugar sauces like ketchup and salad cream. Its also in options chocolate drinks i had at bed time, and in some cereal that is supposed to be low in sugar.
I never drink fizzy pop like cans of coke or other flavours, but it is in dilute fruit cordial which i drunk through the summer months.
Not a massive amount as you can see, but the things with Aspartame, it builds up and stores in your system and tissue over time, slowly eating away at you. A time bomb waiting to go off.If you dont know much about Aspartame or what food stuff it's in then go look at my forum link below. This is a toxic substance that effects us all who have sugar free products in our diets, you dont have to be pregnant for it to effect you.

I do urge all of you who read this to watch the food labels and if it says ASPARTAME to throw it in the bin, dont give it to your children, and please if you are pregnant dont even think of taking anything with this substance in it. It could be responsible for hurting not only you, but your unborn baby......

Claire


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chocoholic

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I have heard adverse things about Aspartame before and have tried to cut down on this myself. As someone whose own brother has cerebral palsy, I can understand your worries on that score. I may be wrong but I think if the brain damage has been done, any cerebral palsy would have shown itself by now, so I should look upon that as a positive sign. I do hope your baby son will go from strength to strength and wish you well.
 

sparkle73

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Hi Sarah. yes that is what you would think isnt it. when it was pointed out to me that aspartame (the sweetner i was putting in my tea) could be causing such problems, i too was dismissive. "But its only silly sugar substitute, how that cause so many problems" It wasnt until i went checking and researching it that i found it is all well known, and well covered up by the manufacturers too. there's even Aspartame detox centers and victim support groups. The more i read about this stuff the more i couldnt believe it. How they get away with it is beyond belief. you can see peoples stories being told over and over again about what the intake of this stuff has done to them, and still it goes on. you cant win over massive companies with the money they have, all anybody can do is a little bit at a time, with friends and family. You say that you and many millions of people are taking this stuff, and i agree they are. the thing is, how do you know your liver isnt being harmed with this stuff. My liver gamma reading is that of a ranging alchoholic (the doctors words not mine), but still i havent any outward signs that my liver is struggling so much,i look perfectly healthy on the outside and i wouldnt know if it wasnt for my post natal checkup. this could be the case for many people. Here's something that is a fact about aspartame. when you digest it, it then breaks down into chemical form, firstly into wood alchohol (Menthynol), Phenylaniline, and then into formaldehyde the stuff they embalm dead bodies with, which is a cancer causing agent.It is also well reported that the first person to come across this substance, a company owned by a family firm, on learning that his partners intended to market this stuff as a sweetner, said on record that this is far too toxic for human consumption, sold all his family shares in the company and walked away from it.It is also well reported too that if any eminent scientists are brave enough to tell the truth over this they are threatened with legal actions and such. An interesting fact too is that aspartame isnt really a sugar substitute, well it didnt start out life as one anyway. it is in fact an accidental waste product of an anti ulcer medication. even now when i read that, i cant believe ive been putting that in my system for so long, and that many other people do too "YUK!"
Thanks for the post. we do hope and pray everyday that things arent as bad with our son as is indicated by the doctors so far. still, he is a happy little lad so we are thankful for that.

Claire
 

sparkle73

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by chocoholic</i>
<br />I have heard adverse things about Aspartame before and have tried to cut down on this myself. As someone whose own brother has cerebral palsy, I can understand your worries on that score. I may be wrong but I think if the brain damage has been done, any cerebral palsy would have shown itself by now, so I should look upon that as a positive sign. I do hope your baby son will go from strength to strength and wish you well.
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Hi Chocoholic,

Thank you for your post and reassuring words regarding my baby boy. Good luck with trying to get off this horrible stuff.

I wish you well.

Claire
 

Claire

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Hi Claire

That is a truly awful story. I hope things work out for you.

I personally think we have a ticking time bomb going on with all these additives/colourings/synthetic chemical "food"stuffs.

Wonder what would happen if we all just went back to the foods provided by nature which are perfect all by themselves rather than trying to be clever and make up new stuff to eat???

Wouldn't mind betting the membership of a forum like this would be much, much smaller, for one thing. Bet cases of type 2 diabetes would fall massively.

Now, I will readily admit I am addicted as the next person to man-made "foods" but boy, am I working on losing them!

Good luck

Claire
 

sparkle73

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Hi Claire,

Yes it has been widely reported that type 2 diabetes is man made by the things that we eat as such as trans fat and foods covered in sugar causing obesety and such problems. My diabetic nurse said to me that the book on diabetes can be thrown away because it doesn't follow the text book rules anymore as it seems to be down to lifestyle mostly for some people which in turn is causing diabetes to be on the increase, so yes it does make sense that if we all went back to a more natural diet getting rid of the chemicals and junk food then diabetes may return back to previous levels.

Thanks for posting
Claire
 

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Hi Sparkle73, I found your post very sad but interesting. I hope you and your little boy continue to get well. We really don't know what we are eating and drinking. I thought we as a family always ate healthy, low fat etc. My husband was diagnosed type 2 two years ago and this site has changed our eating habits even more, we try to follow low GI as much as possible now and are feeling the benefits. It is like a mine field with so much to learn regarding addatives, but it is hard to know and understand what is added to foods. I hope through posts from our friends on the forum that we can all be educated a bit more, from your sad experience it may help someone else, take care junieliz
 

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<br />I hope through posts from our friends on the forum that we can all be educated a bit more, from your sad experience it may help someone else, take care junieliz<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Hi Junieliz, that is all we are aiming to do, you have hit the nail on the head :)

Thank you for your post and wish you and your family all the best.

Claire
 

sparkle73

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Mmmmmm sarah, what a lovely person you are to attack so viciously my situation. you think you know the truth do you about us. so you think we are a spoof eh. that my baby story is untrue. If people dont see your attack on us as your fear talking given your heavy intake with sugar substistutes, then i dont know what is. you have certainly come across as totally heartless, attacking not only our good intentions but saying too that our sons predicament is made up. what kind of a sick mind could think of something so low as to use a childs illness as a ploy to fuel a scam. and i will tell you something else too, if this is how you moderate your own forum, with unfounded insults and accusations, then it time you found yourself some other hobby. Ive a good mind to report you to this site for your disgusting comments.
Oh and by the way, if you take a look through the old posts you will see posts from me going back months and months.

you should be ashamed

regards Claire
 

martinbuchan

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I think Claire protests too much. Your replies to the sceptics are emotionally domineering and leaves me to doubt your veracity also. A baby website proves nothing - except there is a baby picture of someone called nathan. Thw whole issue smacks of the same middle class meddling surrounding autism and MMR vaccination. Its an unproven area and I respect your decision to expose a potential problem. I just don't believe there is evidence to prove your point of view.

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sparkle73

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by martinbuchan</i>
<br />I think Claire protests too much. Your replies to the sceptics are emotionally domineering and leaves me to doubt your veracity also. A baby website proves nothing - except there is a baby picture of someone called nathan. Thw whole issue smacks of the same middle class meddling surrounding autism and MMR vaccination. Its an unproven area and I respect your decision to expose a potential problem. I just don't believe there is evidence to prove your point of view.

Marty B
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Lol i just knew you or sarahq would come back with a comment about the baby site, i half expected one of you to accuse me of quickly making the baby site up to back up our so called fake profile, thats how manic some people's needs are to feel safe,talk about showing yourselfs up on here. The comments that you or sarahq are making just proves one thing, that for most part we live in a blinkered soceity, people dont want to see past there own noses and when something comes up that they dont want to face, they then pour scorn on even the idea that there is truth in things they dont want to believe. you say i protest too much, erm trust me on this, with the offensive comments made, i feel i handled myself fairly well. In the end all i wanted to do was help, but if people like your good self dont want to even take it on board and eat apartame products till they come out of your ears then i respect that, and wish you good luck with it. Trust me, you eat that stuff then you are going to need all the luck in the world. in the end i know my family is safe from that stuff, so believe what you want.I also feel too, that i will leave it upto the wise people on this site to make their own minds up if we are real or not, or my baby site is real, and is indeed me and my family. I think then that it will become apparent, share my views or not on apartame, to others on this site,that certain people are behaving as if they have hidden agenda's, and are indeed making total fools of themselves with their aggresive clever behavoir. Simple fact is, some people just dont like being proven wrong. Only time will tell if what i am saying is true, in the meantime we all have to look at the evidence and decide if there is enough evidence to prove the thing is safe. you dont have to look far to see both sides of the aurgument, but if people are totally nieve to believe that they are being told the truth by the company that makes this stuff, along side the facts of what this stuff turns into as it breaks down in the body, toxic substances,countries have banned this stuff too etc etc. then blinkerd isnt the word... Tell you what, im going to shut up in this post to you. because i may as well be typing "dsdkfne ergomdfb dfgdfgpoer" you just cant help some people.

regards

Claire

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Dennis

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Ladies and Gentlemen,

Claire has made her point. You can choose to believe what she says or not. She is just as entitled to post her views on aspartame as you are to disbelieve what she says.

<b>Can we please let this rest now?</b>
 

sugar

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Point taken Dennis.
I just wanted to add though (sorry!) that I am currently expecting my 2nd baby, and having being diabetic for over 30 years, have consuled a few artificial sweetners in my time.
I would like to reassure other people, that I personally I have not experienced anything as scary as what Clare describes..and neither have the numerous other pregnant diabetic ladies I meet every fortnight for my clinic appointments.
It is always good to hear these story's though. Anything that makes you think is a good thing and eat a more healthy diet is a good thing, but don't panic!
 

sparkle73

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Thats great news, the only advise i can give on this score is to watch for the liver tests they do later on in pregnancy and if they show signs of being elevated, to ask which part of the reading is up. if it's the gamma readings, which is an indication of something you are putting in your system, then please remember what has been said on here

Best regards

claire

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Rick

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I have to agree with Marty B; there appears to be nothing on the baby webpage about complications or diabetes or anything else that has been alluded to thus far. I can list several of my friends who have had difficult pregnancies and that the baby has not fed 'properly' and had to be kept-in for the first week or so of it's life but is fine now and, it has to be noted, that that seems to be the case here too? I wish you and your child the best of health sparkle73 but I have to wonder what this posting is all about.
 

Dipsy

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I think it is very helpful for Claire to have posted about this, in the same way that John posted <i>the cure</i>. There is a lot on the internet about aspartame, both for and against. We can read for ourselves and make an informed decision.

I would prefer to eat natural foods. I've known a number of people who react badly to aspartame, and chose a few years ago to avoid it and other artificial sweetners, for myself and my family, and especially during pregnancy.

We have orangina or 7-up for birthdays as a treat, and drink water, fruit juice, hot chocolate, redbush tea or naturally decaffeinated coffee day to day. We make cakes and biscuits and eat good quality chocolate for treats, so simply avoid the need for shop bought products with the many artificial additives.

I'm only diabetic during pregnancy, which is a whole lot easier than having it full time or having a child with diabetes. Perhaps then you need to chose the lesser of two evils. It is good to do some reading and thinking on this subject though, and not just attack Claire for daring to suggest there might be a potential problem with aspartame.
 

sparkle73

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Rick

Firstly, my baby website as you should be able to see has not been updated since Christmas 2007, which is obvious by the Christmas music which is still playing and also the updated dates on there. Yes, there is no mention of diabetes or complications on there as at that time my son was in intensive care for the first 3 weeks of his life, and because it is a public family website, was not going to go into detail regarding the problems with our son’s health as it is too upsetting for family members to read, although they know what the problems are. It is our attempt to lighten a worrying situation for my family. an attempt to celebrate the birth of my son against all the worry and problems. Also it’s only recently that our son has had extensive tests done and a MRI scan showing that he has been badly compromised, and there is brain damage due to the lack of oxygen he suffered at birth, as you can read in ‘my story’. My son is now classed as disabled, with stroke like symptoms to his upper limbs, and the doctors have said that he is highly likely to develop Celebral Palsy. He also fitted at birth too because his blood chemicals were all over the place which almost took his life. So you don’t know the full story behind all this but that is beside the point. The only reason my babysite was put on this forum was because a few people were accusing me of having a fake membership and somehow trying to work a scam (you can still find old post of me on this site going back to October saying I was new here that I am diabetic type 2 and was pregnant at the time). This initial posting on here was to warn people of the dangers of aspartame and what it could do to you. Bear in mind here that I am a healthy 34 year old, with a good diet, I don’t do drugs, not on any medication, and I don’t touch a drop of alcohol and haven’t done in over ten years. For my liver gamma readings to be that of a raging alcoholic, and the doctors to warn me that this reading indicates that it’s something I’m doing, (My dietry lifestyle) to cause my liver to be struggling so much,not only in late pregnancy but now after almost 4 months of giving birth, then in the words of that saying. You eliminate the probable, then what you are left with, even if its seems improbable, must be the truth. I know the only change in my diet in years, was the exclusion of sugar products and the inclusion of low sugar and sugar free products containing Aspartame. People have attacked me on this site, but that’s ok, I didn’t realise it would be such an emotive subject. In the end I am just trying to get the message across, and it has obviously caused a lot of fear in people to want to attack me, or accuse me of being upto something, the way some have. Being diabetic is hard enough, we don’t really have much support in the food industry, diabetic food products are few and far between. Now with the added complication of having to watch the Aspartame content, I’m not surprised people are kicking off. definitely a case of shoot the messenger here.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/newforum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=899
Above is one of my first posts on this site going back to October 2007
This is awful that I have to defend that I am diabetic, that my son is disabled and that I am just trying to warn and help people with something that could be an issue when people don't even realise or want to believe that it is.

Regards
Claire

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martinbuchan

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Dennis, I think Claire has been one of the most aggressive and hostile posters here for a while. She must have some issues and it can't be easy with a young disabled baby.

2 things taught to me at medical school

1. Distilled water causes cancer in mice
2. Vitamin E is more poisonous than cyanide


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