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Sugar question

Earthy

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
I have just been diagnosed with borderline diabetes, diabetes is rife in my family so its a case of when i get it not if i get it.
I do have lots of changes i can make in my diet though, so my question is this (seeing as i forgot to ask the nurse) :)

When i am looking at nutritional info, what is the upper limit for sugar per 100g?

Carol x
 
Hi Carol and welcome to the forum :) I'm not sure that I've understood your question but I think this basic information for new members should be very helpful to you. Ask all the questions you want and someone will have an answer for you.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find well over 30,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates
A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes ... rains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips
The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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Please sign our e-petition for free testing for all type 2's; here's the link:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/petition/

Do get your friends and colleagues to sign as well.
 
Thanks Daisy, i will look at all this :)

When i look at yoghurts for instance and the sugar in it is, say, 11g per 100g..is that too much? What should i keep the sugar levels under?
 
Forget about the of which sugars on a label, it is the total carbohydrate content you want to look at. A slice of white bread has 17.8 grams of carbs, of which 1.5 grams of sugar. You may think, oh good not much sugar in this, but the whole carbohydrate content will soon turn to sugar in your body and raise your blood sugar levels.

I was never told this by my GP or practice nurse, so it wasn't until I came here that I realised that it was total carbohydrates that I need to watch.
 
Earthy said:
Thanks Daisy, i will look at all this :)

When i look at yoghurts for instance and the sugar in it is, say, 11g per 100g..is that too much? What should i keep the sugar levels under?

Its not just sugar you need to look at but Total Carbohydrate. It is carbohydrate in all forms that significantly effects blood glucose levels. Sugar is just a refined form of carbohydrate. If you are carb counting then you need to add up the Total carbs on the backs of packets not just the "of which sugars" amount.

You will find that "starchy carbs" like rice, pasta, bread, potatoes, cereals and anything else made of flour have a high carbohydrate content. Cutting out just plain "sugar" is effectively taken for granted by Type 2 diabetics. So things with sugar in them like biscuits, cakes, sweets, pure fruit juices are really only for special treats and then only in very small amounts.

Many newly diagnosed diabetics on the forum initially aim to eat in the region of a TOTAL of about 120-150g of carbohydrate a day. Based on what their blood glucose meter readings are telling them they then adjust up or in quite a few cases down from that starting point. To maintain my blood sugar levels within safe limits I eat roughly 75g / day.

I will warn you that even at 150g / day you will probably be eating a lot, lot less of the foods I've mentioned.
 
Thank you so much :)
Wow..this is going to be difficult, i used to live on carbs but at least i know what to keep a check on now. Thank you again. :D
 
A rule of thumb when looking at the nutrition box on the back of packets, is that total carbohydrate ideally will be less than 5 grams per 100g.
 
Hello Earthy. I too used to have carbs, lots of them, for every meal. Once I made a list of what low carb foods I could have, I cried.

Now, 2 weeks on, I feel great. I have found for me that eating lots of protein is the key. This may not work for you, your blood glucose test results will tell you if it will.

For example, my usual lunch was 2 bread rolls with tuna or ham and salad. 1 packet of crisps, and something chocolaty.

Now I have a big bowl of salad with a whole small tin of tuna or 4oz chicken or ham, and some mayonnaise (just a bit) and I am full.

i found it important to up my protein as I reduced my carbs to avoid feeling faint and hungry. And my blood glucose levels have gone from double figures to under 9 in 10 days.

i hope this helps. There is a whole sect on meals and recipes on here.
 
Earthy said:
I have just been diagnosed with borderline diabetes, diabetes is rife in my family so its a case of when i get it not if i get it.
Progression to a type 2 diabetes diagnosis is by no means a given. Restricting carbohydrate, exercise and living a low stress lifestyle can do wonders. Be an optimist.
 
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