Type 2 Taking Forxiga would this help

sueky01

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Hi, I have just had a telephone call from a doctor in the practice about my bloods. She said my bloods under control between 52-55. I take 1000mg Metabet SR (1 tablet a day) but iam having real problems loosing weight. She has said my cholestral is 6.6 and suggested statins. I am also premenopausal. I have read on this forum exciting results taken aside my medication to take Forxiga, a tablet which helps to reduce blood glucose levels by helping the kidneys to remove glucose from the blood the drug helps to support weight loss. The best she could offer me was to raise my metabet sr by another tablet a day and this may help with my weight loss. She also mentioned me trying orlistat. I am using myfitness pal for tracking and watch what I eat and have a fitbit for my exercise. I do a lot of walking. My question is why is she reluctant to let me try this?
 

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I'm sure someone else can advise about Forxiga. But do read up on Orlistat, I was offered this too, but I'm sure its the one that makes you erm have oily secretions, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 

sueky01

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Yes I have read and you are quiet right about orlistat. The doctor point blank refuses to issue the tablet as she said it is still in really trial faces, she has suggested help by seeing the nurse on weight management and to write down what and how much i am eating per week.
 

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@sueky01

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information which Catherine suggested which we give to new members and I hope you will find it helpful, especially with your weight. Ask more questions and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 
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poshtotty

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I tried Forxiga briefly to help my fasting blood sugars. I had to fight very hard to have it prescribed and my GP insisted on me seeing a dietician first, who was the one to prescribe it as my GP hadn't heard of it. I came off it very quickly after only a couple of weeks as I believe it caused a flare-up of another medical condition I had and I didn't like the bad reports it was receiving.

It definitely helped my fasting bloods, but not weight loss. I'm achieving that with LCHF and exercise.
 

sueky01

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Thank you for your comments. The doctor has suggested to increase my metformin sr to 2 tablets a day. My Cholesterol has crept up so suggested statins too.I am seeing the nurse (not diabetic nurse as she is off ill) to discuss weight management. I am looking at this forum and clearly there are different discussions around what helps and does not. It is very frustrating, I feel I am on a wheel and I cant get off. Menopause symptoms doesn't help either.
 

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It's generally a good idea to find out what your individual cholesterol levels are instead of looking just at the "total cholesterol" number. The individual ones are triglycerides, HDL and LDL cholesterol. If these numbers are not too bad, you might feel you don't need a statin. There have been a lot of threads on the forum about statins so have a look and weigh up the pros and cons before deciding.
 

sueky01

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I shall ask the nurse to write all this down for me tomorrow.
 

poshtotty

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One man's meat is another man's poison, as they say. I pressed for Forxiga because I'd read positive results here from others taking it but it didn't suit me. Metformin is considered to be perfectly safe but as my quest is to be med free, I now only take 2 metformin SR daily, having dropped from 4 daily and given up all other meds for another condition. I also regularly decline statins although my cholesterol is slightly elevated my HDL, LDL and trigs are all now in normal range which tells me that my diet and lifestyle changes alone are effective

Weight management is essential and you will find plenty of advice here but it is trial and error to find an eating plan which will suit you. Good luck
 

sueky01

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The doctor suggested increasing my metabet sr 1000mg to 2000mg daily to help with weight loss
 

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The doctor suggested increasing my metabet sr 1000mg to 2000mg daily to help with weight loss
That's probably a reasonable thing to try. One of the effects of metformin is appetite suppression. As long as you can tolerate metformin ok, ie you don't get bothersome side effects like diarrhoea, then increasing it will hopefully be of benefit.
 

sueky01

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So far so good and I can tolerate the tablets. See how I get on. Did give me any instructions at what time of day to spread them out at though!