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TESTING .........HBA1C (type2)

John lindsay

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Location
liverpool
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Due to a change of procedure at our doctors testing is now done at 6 months, none of which is fasting including cholesterol. My doctor does not believe in glucometers and will only accept hba1c results and led me to foolishly agree and stop bothering with the meter. To my horror after testing last week my result was 91and he declared my diabetes out of control, his treatment being to increase Actos to maximum dose from minimum dose, it did not work and I recorded a celebratory 13.9 on my dusted off meter. I am going back to another doctor this week, I will let you know. The purpose of this diatribe is.

TESTING should be done at 4 months as previously and fasting before, is recommended.
REGULAR use of a meter for us all no matter how we feel and especially deniers- free strips.
CHECK foods with the free app for sucrose and bin any being ridiculous ( some yoghurts,most cereals).
 
Due to a change of procedure at our doctors testing is now done at 6 months, none of which is fasting including cholesterol. My doctor does not believe in glucometers and will only accept hba1c results and led me to foolishly agree and stop bothering with the meter. To my horror after testing last week my result was 91and he declared my diabetes out of control, his treatment being to increase Actos to maximum dose from minimum dose, it did not work and I recorded a celebratory 13.9 on my dusted off meter. I am going back to another doctor this week, I will let you know. The purpose of this diatribe is.

TESTING should be done at 4 months as previously and fasting before, is recommended.
REGULAR use of a meter for us all no matter how we feel and especially deniers- free strips.
CHECK foods with the free app for sucrose and bin any being ridiculous ( some yoghurts,most cereals).
Fasting is not required for HbA1c test. It used to be recommended for the annual checkup where a full lipid panel test was being done at the same time, as this needs a fasting blood condition. Now that my GP practice no longer does the lipid panel, they have dropped the fasting requirement completely. It means that they can now do diabetic bloods all day instead of cramming them into early morning. such is progress.
Second point I would like to add is that there is a time limit minimum of 3 months between HbA1c tests for most of us since the HbA1c needs to average over 3 months to be meaningful. Thereafter it is up to the GP as to how often he/she will order test, and this depends on how much in control he/she thinks you are keeping, and also budget constraints of the practice. NICE recommends annual checkup as'mandatory' all other tests are 'on condition'.
I am on approx 3 monthly at the moment because my control regime has dramatically changed, and I also have a GP AND a DSN to convince on alternate trimesters. (actually HAD, since I am recently discharged from seeing the DSN any more)

The question of self monitoring is one we all ask for, but there isn't the money in the kitty for all 3 million or so diabetics currently registered in the UK to be supported in this. Also, although there is strong evidence on this forum that Self Mon (oops nearly shortened it to SM) is beneficial, the same cannot be said for the general population of diabetics, who probably would not benefit as much. The NICE guidelines are quite clear in regard to Self Mon, in that it has to be justified either by the type of medication, or by evidence of recurring hypo events before a GP should support it for any patient.

If you read the success stories on this foru you will probably realise quite soon that while cutting out sucrose is one step, there are more factors to consider in regard to diet in order to get our bgl under control
 
If it is another doctor in the same practice they will back each other up. Yesterday I went for an appointment with the one person left in the practice I attend who had not tried to mislead me and they were not interested in my meter results. My HbA1c results of 6.6 and, following NHS diet guidelines 6.7 last autumn are enough to confirm diagnosis (forget test margin of error) and that means Metformin to control. Because I refused I am being difficult, uncooperative and 'will regret not taking one little tablet when I am going blind', doctor 2 words to me before Christmas. My last test at end of March came in at 6.3 which is 'normal' so I can stop testing at home and go back in 6 months for another glucose and A1c! Since January my rolling 12 week averages of 5.5 are explained by meter testing coming from the capillaries and A1c being venal blood; as if the blood is circulating in 2 separate systems. Metformin 'may' cause a slight tummy upset, DN. I have a 3/4 hour drive across country with nowhere to stop to get to work is irrelevant. That I have found grains and slight stress raises BG levels is irrelevant. Trust has gone out of the window particularly when I found that they still have no medical records for me although I registered with the practice in 2004.
Sorry for the rant but I am so frustrated, have no intention of stopping home testing and eating to meter. The decision whether to return in the autumn is a question for later in the year.
 
Sorry for your troubles, I can only commiserate with you, and hope things get better. :) Sadly, your experience sounds a bit like my surgery, but so far I just let it all wash over me. I suppose there's no chance of changing to a different practice ??
 
Oh well, the sun is shining, I've got the day off, a spoonful of ice cream, a large glass of wine and a dress that I bought last year and can now get on comfortably. What more could a girl want? I usually count my blessings and find myself very fortunate. I can feel a pamper session coming on this evening. Then back into the real world tomorrow.
 
1. TESTING should be done at 4 months as previously and fasting before, is recommended.
2. REGULAR use of a meter for us all no matter how we feel and especially deniers- free strips.
3. CHECK foods with the free app for sucrose and bin any being ridiculous ( some yoghurts, most cereals).

Whilst I wouldn't disagree with any of those and 2 and 3 are pretty much essential, 4 month tests? On the one hand if the GP isn't going to trust your meter then he should give the test more often. On the other hand it's no secret that it's all down to money and a 4 month test is a 50% increase in annual costs.
I think you're lucky to have 6 month tests, mine are annual, but then my GP knows that I take my diabetes seriously (not suggesting anybody doesn't), I use my meter, have a sensible low carb diet and that I will avoid things that make my BG spike. There again, I have a sensible GP and DN.
 
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